Why didn't the cattail ignite?

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Will_

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I've always found cattails to be really consistent at taking a firesteel spark and igniting, I've found them to be a really simple & easy way to get a fire going even in the snow.
This week, I couldn't get them to ignite. I tried a few, but no success.
Is there something about this time of year, or have I just lost my touch :bluThinki
 

Toddy

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It's damp, really damp, out there. Warm up a handful or a couple of the cigars first by carrying them in your pocket.
It's messy, but not dirty or toxic or smelly.

cheers,
M
 

Will_

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Warm up a handful or a couple of the cigars first by carrying them in your pocket.
I'm going to go out again this afternoon and give that a go.
What are people's favourite most reliable natural tinders for catching a firesteel spark?
I think cattails may be replaced by my dog's fur now!
No matter the weather, a tuft of her fur seems to always take a spark!
 

Shewie

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Whatever you do don't leave them on the radiator to dry out, very messy and it upsets the wife when they send seed pods floating around the room.
 

Goatboy

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I'm going to go out again this afternoon and give that a go.
What are people's favourite most reliable natural tinders for catching a firesteel spark?
I think cattails may be replaced by my dog's fur now!
No matter the weather, a tuft of her fur seems to always take a spark!

Carefull of sparks 'round the dog then, it may go WOOF!:lmao:
 

Will_

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Carefull of sparks 'round the dog then, it may go WOOF!:lmao:
:D Terrible. So you're behind the Christmas cracker jokes are you!
Seriously though, it has crossed my mind a few times around the campfire!
She's a long furred German Shepherd, and I have wondered, if an ember blew into her coat would she instantly combust?!
 

Midnitehound

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:D Terrible. So you're behind the Christmas cracker jokes are you!
Seriously though, it has crossed my mind a few times around the campfire!
She's a long furred German Shepherd, and I have wondered, if an ember blew into her coat would she instantly combust?!

Perhaps you should spray her with fire retardant or at least get her a fire blanket to lie on and teach her to roll over and over on command! :rolleyes:
 

Goatboy

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Perhaps you should spray her with fire retardant or at least get her a fire blanket to lie on and teach her to roll over and over on command! :rolleyes:
Yes you wouldn't want a hotdog! (I also do children's parties and bar mitzvahs!)

Seriously though have is designed to singe rather than combust, does she have an oily coat? (Actually fluffy Alsatians it is quite a fine filament in the undercoat isn't it?
 

rancid badger

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I'm going to go out again this afternoon and give that a go.
What are people's favourite most reliable natural tinders for catching a firesteel spark?
I think cattails may be replaced by my dog's fur now!
No matter the weather, a tuft of her fur seems to always take a spark!


Cat tails would not be my first choice of natural tinder. They usually catch a spark readily but burn with a "flash" flame, which is gone in half a second and leaves little in the way of "coals". It's really not a very reliable fire lighting tinder at all in my view.

I'm very surprised that your dogs fur actually catches fire rather than simply singeing! A bit of a hazard for the dog to be honest!

My first choice for natural tinder is birch bark, every time. If I'm going somewhere that may not have suitable supplies available, I'll take plenty with me. Birch bark is rich in oils and volatile chemicals which if the bark is prepared correctly,allows it to burn like a candle.

Add some conifer resin, either collected straight from the tree or collected and then boiled to form pitch( much less messy and easier to handle) and you will find that this gives a steady burning flame once lit, which will help get a fire going in damp conditions.

Some people struggle with birch bark and firesteels-it's pretty straight forward really, but requires some practice (please ignore the music!:eek:)
[video=youtube;bc2wQ9ryts0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc2wQ9ryts0[/video]

If I'm canoeing or just "out and about" I always carry cotton wool balls soaked with vaseline/petroleum jelly. This stuff lights even if its been dropped in water if prepared correctly. Whether you use a firesteel, match or lighter.


good luck and remember; practice makes perfect;)

Steve
 
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rancid badger

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Here's how the "experts" do it-at about 6mins and 50 seconds in
[video=youtube;ut3KOabgdJ8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut3KOabgdJ8[/video]

The scraping of the bark on his thigh is frankly, ill advised at best! Imagine yourself in the same conditions; cold, wet, tired, being bitten to shxt by midges and mosquito's.

I'm amazed that this was kept in and not re-done:confused:

Anyway, be safe.

Steve
 

Toddy

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Whatever you do don't leave them on the radiator to dry out, very messy and it upsets the wife when they send seed pods floating around the room.
....and whatever you do, don't feed them into a kelly kettle :sigh: You would not believe the mess :yikes:

M
 

Stringmaker

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I finally got round to charring a reedmace head recently, as well as some punk wood.

I was well impressed with both of them as spark catchers; I think I'll char most of my other seed heads for future use.
 

Will_

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Were the cattails damp or in high humidity?
No. It had been raining a lot, but they didn't seem damp when I opened them up.
I haven't tried drying them out in a pocket yet.
Like I said, I've used these to get fires going in all sorts of weather before, and never head a problem.

Thanks for all the advice everyone.

P.S.
Are cattails and reedmace the same?
 

Will_

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Thanks for taking the time to post these videos rancid badger.
I've had success with birch bark a few times. I'm going to start practicing with it more in bad weather though. Maybe it will become my tinder of choice...

My dog's hair does singe and stink, but it does take a spark and burn. She's almost always malting, and it's easy to pull a tuft of it out.
It's the inner stuff that burns. I think it's the outer stuff that singes...

P.S.
I loved the music! My 1 year old daughter even did a little dance to it!! :D
 
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