Native Flutes

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Elen Sentier

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
when you say native flutes, I'm guessing that you don't actually mean native. You mean foreign aka native to the other side of the world ;)

Well ... yes and know! I suspect our ancestors used them too, the principle isn't difficult and I've made cow-parsely flutes and elder and willow, even plastic drainpipe flutes :). The American versions are what is best known and still used over there by their native peoples. we're finding our way back to this. I would like something a bit nicer than my previous homemade ones.

Sheesh! I meant "no" !!! More tea! more tea!

Mark, I know nigel and carolyn (7th Wave) and love her reindeer drums. they're lovely folks and super musicians but I was raher hoping there'd be somebody here ... I might see if Corwen will make me a deer bone flute :). I love the sound of a man who lives in the Owlhouse and makes owl flutes :D, I have a "thing" about owls.
 
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Baggy

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Mmmm ... after a longer read, I'm rather taken with David Cartwright, see he studied with Nigel.
David is a really nice bloke, and his flutes are amazing it does not take much breath to make them play.
He has moved past most other flute makers in the UK. There is usually a bit of a waiting list because of the demand. His concert flutes have an amazing voice.

OK, I admit it, I am a fan
 

Keith_Beef

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I was also a bit confused by the term "native flute"...

For me, native means "born in a particular place"; it always grates on my nerves to hear or read the term used to mean something else, unless I know that it is a text of a particular context where "native" is a synonym for "savage", "fuzzy-wuzzy" or similar. You know, they don't like it up 'em, Mr. Mainwairing...
 

Elen Sentier

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
David is a really nice bloke, and his flutes are amazing it does not take much breath to make them play.
He has moved past most other flute makers in the UK. There is usually a bit of a waiting list because of the demand. His concert flutes have an amazing voice.

OK, I admit it, I am a fan

I've emailed him :) ... wonder if I can afford ??? You play? I used to play recorder until my hands got too twisted. Tried one of these flutes last year and found I could do it. I see David asks for hand models - very sensible! I have to be over his side of the country at times this year so hope I may be able to call in. Thanks for the link.
 

Skaukraft

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Apr 8, 2012
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I have a nice piece of plumwood sitting in my shed waiting to be processed.
The plan is to make a Native American style flute, or at least try to make one. But I'm not sure when....
Found a bit of usefull info on the Musical Instruments section on the PaleoPlanet forum.
 

Baggy

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Oct 22, 2009
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www.markbaigent.co.uk
I am assuming that we have been talking about NAF or North American flutes, also named native american flutes. As they were found from What is now Canada to South America that the second is more accurate.

I would guess that the simplicity of flutes would mean that most cultures has some.

I have an NAF and can make noises that I like, I do not think that anyone would recognise the sounds as music though :)
 

santaman2000

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I am assuming that we have been talking about NAF or North American flutes, also named native american flutes.....

I knew she meant NAF flutes. All three of the ones I mentioned are NAF flutes. There were hundreds of different cultures among the original native Americans and in four separate envronments with different materials available. All with different flutes.
 

Elen Sentier

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
I was also a bit confused by the term "native flute"...

For me, native means "born in a particular place"; it always grates on my nerves to hear or read the term used to mean something else, unless I know that it is a text of a particular context where "native" is a synonym for "savage", "fuzzy-wuzzy" or similar. You know, they don't like it up 'em, Mr. Mainwairing...

:D for Mr Mainwairing :D. But i agree. I am a native, of Britain, of the land where I live and was born. a lot of my work forms around that. But to make sense to folks I have to use a commonly accepted name. I have trouble with the modern commonly accepted meanings for pagan, barbarian and peasant too !!!
 

Elen Sentier

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
I am assuming that we have been talking about NAF or North American flutes, also named native american flutes. As they were found from What is now Canada to South America that the second is more accurate.

I would guess that the simplicity of flutes would mean that most cultures has some.

I have an NAF and can make noises that I like, I do not think that anyone would recognise the sounds as music though :)

Well ... we'll be able to compare noises later on. I think I have one coming, will post a pic if it all works out. Thank you again for the wonderful link :)
 

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