Unissued British Enfield No.4 MK2 .303 1955

[British Red]

It may well have been a different meaning of "Scout" Gray, Geoff Cooper only came up with his meaning in the 80s, so it doesn't seem unlikely.

We (my wife and I) do enjoy our shooting, and I like the historical aspects of shooting Shooters are a nice bunch and I have been lucky enough to be offered the opportunity to get "hands on" with some fantastic pieces of history. Some are truly iconic - be they broom handle Mausers (the "Lawrence of Arabia" gun), flintlock "Baker rifles" (as used at Waterloo) or Colt Dragoons.

 

[Gray]

It may well have been a different meaning of "Scout" Gray, Geoff Cooper only came up with his meaning in the 80s, so it doesn't seem unlikely.

We (my wife and I) do enjoy our shooting, and I like the historical aspects of shooting Shooters are a nice bunch and I have been lucky enough to be offered the opportunity to get "hands on" with some fantastic pieces of history. Some are truly iconic - be they broom handle Mausers (the "Lawrence of Arabia" gun), flintlock "Baker rifles" (as used at Waterloo) or Colt Dragoons.

Wow, fantastic. Really jealous now

 

[FGYT]

MAin factor for a scout rifle to me is the type and mounting of the scope this is usually a no/low power 1x - 2x max pistol scope with long eye relief mounted well fwds this allows shotgun style both eyes open shooting and fast tracking of targets as opposed to locking you into a the small world thro a high power scope
this goes with the short light rifle
used to run my lever action 44 mag like this very fast rate of very accurate fire on multiple targets

http://jeffcoopersscoutrifles.blogspot.co.uk/

so tho red has the Rifle Styer designed and made as the scout to me his scope choice stops it being a Scout concept rifle

heres how its supposed to work

 

[British Red]

Quite right Duncan - that and the fact that its a mouse gun

 

[Dave-the-rave]

I think the term scout may have been referring to the scope or the sights that was on the one i was shown, it was defo an enfield .303 converted to 7.62 and described as a sniper rifle but it was a long time ago in the 80s and the memory isnt what it used to be.

Thanks for the info BR, fantastic knowledge base you have of which i am deeply envious. A lot of memories being dug up here for me, good and bad.

This it mate?...

This was British Army issue snipers rifle during my time in the 80's. It's basically a 7.62 calibre Lea Enfield with less furniture.
The scope in that pic was the issued job with only x4 magnification. The thinking was that optics magnify shooter error so magnification
was kept minimal. That plus British snipers didn't live in Hollywood so they weren't training for head shots at stupid ranges like in the movie's.

 

[Gray]

Thats the one,id love one now

 

[santaman2000]

......he scope in that pic was the issued job with only x4 magnification. The thinking was that optics magnify shooter error so magnification
was kept minimal. That plus British snipers didn't live in Hollywood so they weren't training for head shots at stupid ranges like in the movie's.

Ironically real life now (1990s on) is shots in excess of a mile. This was the previous record held by a Canadian sniper www.snipercountry.com/Articles/KillingShot_2430Metres.asp It has since been surpassed by a British sniper but I still can't find that link.

 

[British Red]

Corporal of Horse Craig Harrison using an Artic Warfare by Accuracy International IIRC

 

[Goatboy]

Ironically real life now (1990s on) is shots in excess of a mile. This was the previous record held by a Canadian sniper www.snipercountry.com/Articles/KillingShot_2430Metres.asp It has since been surpassed by a British sniper but I still can't find that link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/12000/longest-confirmed-sniper-kill
http://www.itstactical.com/shooting/longest-sniper-shot-record-broken/

 

[santaman2000]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/12000/longest-confirmed-sniper-kill
http://www.itstactical.com/shooting/longest-sniper-shot-record-broken/

Thanks. I've seen the articles but I can never find them when I need to share.

 

[mrostov]

I had one of those unissued Enfields still in the cosmoline. A huge shipment of them came into the USA back in the 1990's and I paid $175, complete with it's original, unissued bayonet. It didn't have a bayonet frog with it though. It was a beautiful rifle. The ammo was expensive and not that common, though. I swapped it for a professional engine rebuild on my jeep.

 

[santaman2000]

I had one of those unissued Enfields still in the cosmoline. A huge shipment of them came into the USA back in the 1990's and I paid $175, complete with it's original, unissued bayonet. It didn't have a bayonet frog with it though. It was a beautiful rifle. The ammo was expensive and not that common, though. I swapped it for a professional engine rebuild on my jeep.

The ammo wasn't that common---then. Right now it's easier to find than 223 or 308.

 

[British Red]

Plenty to be had over here - its almost all boxer primed now too which is nice - makes reloading easier!

A member here kindly donated me two bayonets for mine - one complete with frog. I was delighted to pick up a frog for the other period correct one the other day - for the princely some of £2. That leaves me with only four items to find to complete my Lee Enfield set up to fully complete They are real obscure ones though and only one is a standard issue item (an original sling). The others are an armourers foresight adjustment tool (I have a full set of all 8 foresight elements - I want to do a true zero eventually for kicks). I would also like a 4T cheekpiece and Ian Skennertons seminal No 4 handbook. Everything else I have - from the brass oiler to a full set of parker hale aperture sights (as well as battle sights and a drop in scope mount).

It'll be a long term hunt as I can't afford to pay top dollar - but I hope to get it done eventually!

 

[santaman2000]

The search is half the fun BR.

 

[British Red]

Absolutely - I like the learning part as well

 

[Chillistarr]

They are real obscure ones though and only one is a standard issue item (an original sling).

Wish I'd been a member and you'd posted this several months back - my dad used to have a No.4 converted to .410 and only recently gave away the 'pigsticker' and the canvas sling...just to encourage you they are still kicking about! Good luck with the search

 

[British Red]

Thank you!

Pig stickers I have


Enfield No 4 Mk II and No 9 Mk 1 bayonet by British Red, on Flickr

Got a frog for the No.9 bayonet now...and funnily enough found a copy of the book last night so that's on its way

I have a period correct leather Garand sling currently fitted, which I prefer to the authentic webbing sling in shooting, but it would be nice to have a webbing sling as well


Enfield No 4 Mk 2 with No 9 Mk 1 bayonet by British Red, on Flickr

Must try and track down some more stripper clips at some point since they are getting harder to find now

 

[GordonM]

Thank you!

Pig stickers I have


Enfield No 4 Mk II and No 9 Mk 1 bayonet by British Red, on Flickr

Got a frog for the No.9 bayonet now...and funnily enough found a copy of the book last night so that's on its way

I have a period correct leather Garand sling currently fitted, which I prefer to the authentic webbing sling in shooting, but it would be nice to have a webbing sling as well


Enfield No 4 Mk 2 with No 9 Mk 1 bayonet by British Red, on Flickr

Must try and track down some more stripper clips at some point since they are getting harder to find now

Very nice, BR! Thanks for sharing.

 

[FGYT]

Must try and track down some more stripper clips at some point since they are getting harder to find now

think i have 1 or 2 ????? with some 303 Blanks in ??

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW1-WW2-B...Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item3a7fdf85ad



Cheek piece

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lee-Enfie...Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item58a231d820

Sling Several others on ebay but ruff

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OD-GREEN-...671?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4856ff3717

 

[British Red]

£15 for 5 strippers though Duncan - £3 for bit of bent steel???

The stuff is still out there for sure - but I wish I had bought more when you could buy strippers by the carrier bag full! I've got about 10 - and the same number of magazines (I did buy them when they were cheap!), but the strippers don't last forever in use. I'll probably buy a load from Aus in the end. Hang onto yours if you have use for em.

Slings are around but I'd like a mint one for not too much cash.