X-Frame Ultralight Sleeping Pad H

[Turistas]

Hi,
next my stuff will be sleeping mat, which better to winter?
1. from foam (roll up)
2. self inflating
3. X- frame
4. foil sleep mat
5. or just simple from PVC inflating ( you can see this in beach)

I looking for ultralight and small when is fold.
My concern is in winter night air inside mat will be cold,and moisture inside the mat, and can feel cold from the ground. Any advise?

 

[copper_head]

I've always used thermarest self inflating mats. I have a full length trail-lite for winter and 3/4 length prolite for summer. I also tend to carry a cut down foam mat year round as a seat and to bolster my insulation. The thing consider when buying is a mats 'R' value, this is a measure of its warmth.

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

and dump inside the mat

Never dump in your mat

 

[Turistas]

Never dump in your mat

Dump ups sorry is not my language( and I dint use translator)
I want to say moisture
))

 

[Turistas]

just saw this-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESLrooRJUSM
someone use this system?

 

[ex-member BareThrills]

Dump ups sorry is not my language( and I dint use translator)
I want to say moisture
))

Hey no problem, lost in translation . Yes air core mats can get cold if they have no insulation. Things are getting better though. The thermarest neoair and xtherm ranges have lots of reflective layers and stay really warm even in winter and are lightweight and packable.

I think the xframe would need to be used with second layer of insulation like a thin ccf mat.

Exped range do some lightweight options and these mats have insulation built in. Some are synthetc and others are goose down.

 

[ozzy1977]

I ha e the thermarest trail pro, rolls up quite small and is one of their warmest mats.

 

[ADz-1983]

Hi,
next my stuff will be sleeping mat, which better to winter?
1. from foam (roll up)
2. self inflating
3. X- frame
4. foil sleep mat
5. or just simple from PVC inflating ( you can see this in beach)

I looking for ultralight and small when is fold.
My concern is in winter night air inside mat will be cold,and moisture inside the mat, and can feel cold from the ground. Any advise?

None of the above.

I would highly recommend a Thermarest NeoAir. Either the standard or the Xtherm for better heat retention.

It packs down small, is light and VERY comfortable. The X-frame will be lighter/more compact but wont be as comfortable or have as good heat retention.

The self-inflating/CCF etc mats do not pack down well and are uncomfortable so if its a combination of light/compactness/weight and heat retention you want I would go for a Thermarest NeoAir or Xtherm.

With regards to your cold air/moisture concern you're incorrect. The air actually acts as a barrier/insulation from ground and you do not get moisture unless of course you do not use a ground sheet which would be stupid anyway.

I have a NeoAir but will be upgrading to the Xtherm at some point and from what I have heard its very effective and highly recommended.

 

[theoctagon]

I doubt i'd ever use my X-frame in winter. It does pack very small and is very light but you'll probably need a good amount of additional mats/foil/insulation to keep you warm and comfortable, by which time you may as well have just taken a slightly warmer (and heavier) sleeping mat with you in the first place.

If your heart is set on the X-frame pad try and find a store which has them in stock to go and try one first, they're not for everyone, especially if you sleep on your side a lot.


Matt