Whittled wood rope winder from the moot?

haptalaon

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Sorry I can't remember names, but did anyone get a photo or can draw me a sketch of the thingy from the Moot. It was two sticks and you swung it about like a football rattle to wind cord, being demonstrated on the family day?

I tried to show some kids bramble corsage yesterday and it's clearly too tricky and frustrating cus you need to have the knack and also have six hands, so I want to prep one of these for future
 

John Fenna

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Fix three strands of string to the notch/hook and the other ends to a fixed point. Sptin the stick clockwise until the strings twist tight enough to twist together when you release the tension. Feed the cords (under tension) in thirds to the hook. Spin anti clockwise until the strings are now a rope... more detail...2 rope from string the equipment.JPG3 rope from string loop and karabiner around tree.JPG4 rope from string  tie twine to karabiner on cord around tree.JPG5 rope from string  pull loop of twine through karabiner.JPG6 rope from string tie all three lengths of twine into a loop.JPG6a rope from string  clip the twine into the clip on the drill.JPG7 rope from string wind the twine one way until it kinks when tension is released.JPG7a rope from string wind the twine one way until it kinks when the tension is relaxed.JPG8 rope from string pull a loop of the twisted twine through the Karabiner.JPG8a rope from string pull a loop of the twisted twine through the Karabiner.JPG9 rope from string clip the loop into the clip on the drill then twist in opposite direction.JPG9a rope from string clip the loop into the clip on  the drill then twist in opposite direction.JPG10 rope from string whip the end of the cord to prevent unravelling and cut it free.JPG10a rope from string whip the end of the cord to prevent unravelling and cut it free.JPG11 rope from string finished cord.JPG12 drill with hook in chuck and baler twine.JPG13 a long ropewalk.JPG14 long ropes from a long ropewalk.JPG




This technique is similar to the traditional ropemakers' methods and dates back to antiquity - and again requires minimal equipment. Twisting rope from cord does, however, require space. To make a 10ft rope you need around 40ft of clear space to work in, and lots of twine. You get a rope about one-tenth the length of the twine you use if you are making a “3 twist” rope.​
User the spinner in place of the drill to spin the string :)




The equipment needed is simple, A hand drill, a few karabiners,something to tie a karabiner to a fixed point, and the twine. Theoretically, you could use an electric drill to do this, but Iprefer using hand tools.





Firstly I remove the chuck from the drill and tie a loop of twine and a karabiner to the shaft of the drill (originally I used a bent nail/hook in the chuck but this often pulled out under tension) and tieanother karabiner to a fixed point at one end of your ropewalk. Tie one end of your twine to this karabiner then pull a loop of twine through this karabiner so that you have 3 strands hanging below this“fixed point”. Clip a third karabiner through this loop and then carry your ball of twine and the loop to the far end of your ropewalk(the karabiner through the loop helps you avoid rope burns) and tie the loop and end of the twine to the karabiner (or hook) attached to the drill.





Now simply turn the drill (I usually turn it clockwiseat this point) so that all 3 strands of twine twist tightly together. When the twist is so tight that it starts kinking and twisting once tension is released it is tight enough.





Keeping the twisted twine under tension, return to your “fixed point” andpull a loop of the twisted twine through the karabiner and back tothe drill. Clip the loop into the karabiner (or hook) on the drill and turn the drill anti-clockwise until the 3 strands twist up tightly.





It does not matter if you over-twist the cord at this stage as any excess twist will disappear when the tension is released.





Before unclipping the ends of your newly-formed 3-twist rope, whip ortie the cord at each end at a “clean” point (i.e. below any point where your attachment to the karabiners show). I cut off the untidy ends and sometimes go to the lengths of dipping the ends in tar, wax or glue to seal them (if using natural fibre twine), or heat seal the ends together.​



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2. Rope from string The equipment


3. Rope from string Loop and karabiner around tree


4. Rope from string Tie twine onto karabiner on cord around tree


5. Rope from string Pull loop of twine through karabiner


6. Rope from string Tie all three lengths of twine into a loop


6a. Rope from string Clip the twine into the clip on the drill


7. Rope from string Wind the twine one way until it kinks whentension is released


7a. Rope from string Wind the twine one way until it kinks when thetension is relaxed


8. Rope from string Pull a loop of the twisted twine through thekarabiner


8a. Rope from string Pull a loop of the twisted twine through thekarabiner


9. Rope from string Clip the loop into the clip on the drill thentwist in the opposite direction


9a. Rope from string Clip the loop into the clip on the drill thentwist in the opposite direction


10. Rope from string Whip the end of the cord to prevent unravellingand cut it free


10a. Rope from string Whip the end of the cord to prevent unravellingand cut it free


11. Rope from string Finished cord


12. Drill with hook in chuck and baler twine


13. A long ropewalk


14. Long ropes from a long ropewalk​
 

haptalaon

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Here we go! One swirly whirler & I attempted a bit of carving to look like rope on the handle.

I see the value of all those carabiners, for points at which you clip & unclip rope - I'll have to think about what I've got I can use. safety pins or even a clever knot.

I also had a go with an electric drill - VERY satisfying. For me it's about sustainability as much as the fun of mastering a new craft, & last year I hand-rolled all my winter cordage for curtains and the like. So that's a technique I will use again.

Here demonstrated with springy plastic wool - now I've made rope from bramble and twine, I feel like this method works best the least 'give' the textile has i.e. springy wool is the worst possible choice for building the tension correctly.

When I split the branch which is tied back together, it would have been nice if I could have done it nice and neat all the way down - it splintered off, but works well enough.
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