Wax canvas tarps.

[Perci117]

Evening all,
Would like to ask a bit of advise. I've been using a regular silnylon tarp for a few years now, but soon as pandemic permits. I fancy going the more traditional route.

Browse bag, wool blankets and a canvas tarp.

Any of you done this old school camp, and could you recommend a tarp?

Cheers all

 

[Mesquite]

Have a word with Steven over at Poole Baybushcraft on FB as he makes canvas kit to order

Poole Bay Bushcraft | Poole

Poole Bay Bushcraft, Poole, Dorset. 2,371 likes. We design and make a range of outdoors gear using the best quality materials available. We also speci

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[kard133]

I keep seeing Bushcraft Spain coming up on Etsy, never used their gear but it looks good, and cheaper than tentsmiths, otherwise you could go the DIY route, plenty of waxed canvas fabric on ebay, look for meadium weight or greater than 7oz.

 

[MrEd]

I waxed the canvas tarp for my trailer using my homemade diy Greenland wax recipe. Worked really well, made it properly water resistant. BUT it makes it quite a bit stiffer and more awkward to handle, not really a problem on a trailer but for a tarp to sleep under may be a consideration?

thread on the wax is here

DIY greenland style wax for waterproofing stuff

Ok some of you may already do this or may know of it but some of you may not know how to make greenland style wax, or if you prefer, waterproofing wax. To buy waterproofing wax its around 7 quid for a small block which is quite a lot. its easy to make so save money this way! The paraffin was £1...

bushcraftuk.com

Photos are missing (I will see if I can find them) but the recipe is still there

EDIT: I can’t find the original photos so will make a new batch and update the photos to the forum direct

 

[SaraR]

Seeing as it will be quite a lot heavier per square metre, it might be a good idea to really think through just how big a tarp you actually need, before you go ahead and buy one.

 

[Perci117]

2x3 would be ideal I reckon.

 

[Erbswurst]

What is a browse bag? Is it a straw sack?
Here a German seller offers a used French army linen straw sack, pretty cheap. But I think they had been used exclusively in the barracks.
As far as I am informed armies just did put the straw into the tent, without bag.

Französischer Strohsack Leinen B Bundeswehr Shop Räer Hildesheim

Französischer Strohsack Leinen B Kaufen Sie Bundeswehr Bekleidung und Armeebekleidung vom Räer Hildesheim Bundeswehr Shop. Seit 1920: Sportlich - Robust - Räer!

www.raeer.com

Usually one can find all surplus equipment in all European countries.
I just recently found it on this page, because it is my traditional shop, 100 years old, by the way. But you could search it in Britain too.

Trusty British Surplus Shops ?

Please tell me in your opinion trusty British military surplus shops who run an internet shop. (You may off course write in here little shops in Britain too, which don't run internet shops, but please tell it me, if I can't order there via homepage.) Thank you!

bushcraftuk.com

 

[Erbswurst]

This shop is a very trusty German boy scout shop. As far as I am informed the tarps and tents are made in Czechia.
The seller speaks English, not perfectly but good enough, as I have seen in a video.
These cotton sheets are treated with a fire retardant cotton tent impregnation. That's approximately WW2 standard. There is no wax on them, but it works very well. I think, it works better than wax.

In the other tents they sell German boy scouts ignite well sized fires inside!
It is and stays cotton, but doesn't catch fire from every little spark.

I don't know the tarp, but I am used to such fabric. I surely slept 1000 nights in such tents.

Baumwoll-Tarp 300 x 220 cm, 25 Schlaufen, 269,00 € - Jurtenland

Tarp, 100% Baumwolle, imprägniert, 25 Schlaufen als Abspannpunkte

www.jurtenland.de

 

[Erbswurst]

Custom made in Germany, high end quality: Tschum!

Dutch Tencate or Swiss cotton fabric.
Modern cut, old fashioned material.

Long waiting list, because it is a 1 man business, similar to custom knife makers.

The construction isn't optimised to sleep by the fire. To sleep by the fire a lean to shelter is better, because it doesn't catch smoke in the hood like this here could do it.

Tschum 1P KAMA - Trekking Tent out of Cotton

Tschum 1P KAMA

tschum.de

 

[Erbswurst]

Unissued NVA Zeltbahn, the tent sheet of the East German Army.
You would need two of it.

I own and used it, should you have questions.

NVA Zeltbahn, ungebraucht B+ Bundeswehr Shop Räer Hildesheim

NVA Zeltbahn, ungebraucht B+ Kaufen Sie Bundeswehr Bekleidung und Armeebekleidung vom Räer Hildesheim Bundeswehr Shop. Seit 1920: Sportlich - Robust - Räer!

www.raeer.com

This you surely also can find in Britain.

 

[Erbswurst]

BW Dackelgarage
German army cotton tent.

Used in good conditions.

BW Zweimannzelt, flecktarn B Bundeswehr Shop Räer Hildesheim

BW Zweimannzelt, flecktarn B Kaufen Sie Bundeswehr Bekleidung und Armeebekleidung vom Räer Hildesheim Bundeswehr Shop. Seit 1920: Sportlich - Robust - Räer!

www.raeer.com

 

[Erbswurst]

And a few others too:

Bundeswehr Zeltbahnen, Zeltplanen kaufen | Räer BW & Outdoor

Entdecken Sie hochwertige Bundeswehr Zeltbahnen, Zeltplanen bei Räer. Profitieren Sie von unserer großen Auswahl an Ausrüstung für Ihr nächstes Abenteuer.

www.raeer.com

 

[Erbswurst]

Polish army tent

Polish Army Dome tent Lavvu teepee

Get reliable outdoor shelter with a Polish Army Lavvu Tent. Rugged and durable, a go to for any adventure. More Polish Military Lavvu tepee tents for sale at Military Mart. Available online now.

www.militarymart.co.uk

 

[Erbswurst]

I am used to such old stuff. I know most of the WW2 and Cold War equipment.
One of my friends traded with it for many years.

We used such stuff in the German boy scouts, no plastic equipment. I have seen most of it in use and I own a lot of such equipment and used it for decades. I could open a little military museum with my old camping equipment.

If you have questions, just ask!

@Le Loup is a specialist in older patterns.

 

[Erbswurst]

Here is a specialised seller for reproductions of old army equipment. You can buy here factory new equipment that is made as close as possible to the originals. One surely could say, the stuff is made according to the old military specifications.

Brisith Canvas Tents | Soldier of Fortune

Great deals on reenactment gear for Canvas Tents and Accessories. Everything from British 2 Man Bivi Tent Canvas Only Brown and British Brown Officers Flysheet Canopy Canvas Only Brown to British Officers Groundsheet/tarp by kay Canvas BROWN. Soldier of Fortune gift vouchers available to...

www.sofmilitary.co.uk

But there is still a lot of old school original military material available too. One just needs to know approximately what you want to get. Originals are often really cheap, especially equipment from the sixties, that was nearly made like WW2 equipment and often stored until now, used or even unissued.

 

[Erbswurst]

The German Boy Scout tent KOHTE is sectioned into 4 parts to get it portable.

That is a 100 years ago by the German Eberhard Koebel modernised traditional Finnish KOTA, a real "lavvu" where one can ignite a well sized fire in, without a tent stove!

Just one part can be used as a little tent. The edge of the smoke hole is the foot end in this case.

700€ for 4 sheets and the little roof for the smoke hole:

TORTUGA Planenset Wanderkohte KD38 - Jurtenland - Zelte mit Feuer im

Das Planenset setzt sich zusammen aus vier Wanderkohtenblättern der Qualität KD38, einer Abdeckplane 120 x 120 cm, KD38

www.jurtenland.de

Attention! There are two sizes of the Kohte, only the large one makes really comfortable 2 man tents if only one sheet is used!

The large one gets connected a bit different than the small one, what doesn't really matter, but I show you the small one too, because in this video the seller of these tents speaks English.

 

[Stockers16]

I've recently acquired a Bilmo 3mx3m tarp and it's absolutely bombproof. Don't know if I'll ever use it though as I'm quite attached to my basha, thinking about making it into a smock

 

[Tony]

Bilmo did great tarps, I miss seeing him about...

 

[Madriverrob]

I Received a Secret Santa from Bilmo one year …… wool blanket on one side , waxed on the other , brass grommets in the corners , lovely thing …….

 

[Stockers16]

Bilmo did great tarps, I miss seeing him about...

I've just listed mine in the members classified section if you want to take a look. It needs to go before I cut it up for a smock!