To tent or not to tent that is the question.

Muddy Boots

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Right so I'm turning to the collective for some ideas.
For many years I've fancied the idea of a Baker style tent - yes yes I know another Baker tent thread.
But here's the thing.
Bushcrafting for me for the next several months is likely to be get there in the dark. Set something up quick and break camp a few hours after I get up the following morning.
So what I need is a quick set up shelter preferably one I can hot tent but not essential.
Something with a porch would be nice so I've got the option of an open fire.
I sleep better on a camp cot rather than thermorest type mats that would be the key thing here.

So in summary a Baker style tent or shelter that I can get a cot into and hot tent.

I've got a Helsport Lavvu which kind of fits the bill less the porch.

Thoughts please?
 
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Muddy Boots

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I can see your point with this but I think I'm looking for something a bit more tenty than tarpy.
After the Night Of A Thousand Chiggers I prefer sleeping off the ground and like my creature comforts. Those creature comforts being no Chiggers.
 

Wander

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Do you have the money to buy a Baker tent?
If so, then get one.
If not, then make do with the one you have. You can rig a tarp up to create a porch for your Helsport lavvu.
 

Broch

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Are you walking in and out or in a vehicle or boat?

Baker tent plus cot bed won't be a lightweight option I suspect. Although I see no reason why you can't make a Baker tent from lightweight materials, I've not seen one.

Walking or canoeing, I use a 3x3 tarp like crosslandkelly. For the night creatures I use a natural bug lotion (also keeps slugs off your face:)). Sometimes, I'll take my backpacking tent if I know the weather will be truly foul or I want more privacy.

Overland trekking (110 Defender) I use an Oz tent - it goes up in 20 seconds and is an aluminium framed equivalent of a Baker Tent.
 
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Kav

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In bivy sacks. I’d opt for a first night, crawl in and sleep, set up camp in the morning strategy
 

Lean'n'mean

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Since you haven't mentioned a weight limit (or budget) check out the Pomoly Stovehut which appears to meet many of your requirements.

 
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Kav

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Lonnie of Far North Bushcraft on YouTube has an episode making an inexpensive Baker out of plastic tarp material. You could make your own to test the concept. If it works THEN invest in a canvas unit.
 

Tiley

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I reckon a Finnish loue might fit the bill. Simple and versatile, easy to set up and some even have a sort of aluminium/silvered inside to reflect the heat of your strategically placed fire on to you as you slumber. Since they originate in a country that basks in a proper winter, I think you'll find a loue would satisfy your needs really quite well.
 

TLM

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Loue is a kind of leanto and so one cannot use a stove but it works well with a fire and the reflective inner surface does help.
 

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