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Whittler Kev

Whittler Kev

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I've just acquired (legally of course) a Camping Gs Trek 270 that a friend no longer needs.
It is brand new, never been lit and with it's original box (printed in French) and English Instructions. The carry bag included is still in its cellophane packet. Obviously no cannister, as never used
Found this info on Classic Camp Stoves web site
http://www.spiritburner.com/fusion/showtopic.php?tid/18767/
[video=youtube;PbTy4QTUtZM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbTy4QTUtZM[/video]
but cannot seem to google anything else about it. The site says they are as rare as Hens teeth and came out in 1997.
Any ideas of how much its worth? It will be going in the classified section and I don't want to ask too much, etc.
I think he's looking for a large Gillie Kettle after seeing my Kelly, so the money will go toward this.

Just been sent this site that sells them
http://www.bluedome.co.uk/trailwalk/trailwalk3.cfm?review=184&mascat=29&subcat=72
 
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These stoves do not come up for sale very often, as I feel that most of them are left lying in peoples cupboards or lofts. The reason they are just left lying is because they are not very good at all.
Camping gaz came up with a few new radical stoves at the same time as this one, and they were aimed at folks who did not want to have a flame (because of kids or safety etc), for use in picnics or as a side 'burner' at a BBQ. These stoves were not aimed at the outdoors sector, and their lack of performance reflects this.

This stove you have will be more popular in France as that is its natural home, and where its cannister is most popular. As you may already know, the EN417 valved cartridge is now the dominant cartridge in the UK, with the cartridge this stove uses being a poor cousin in sales figures (so, not as widely available...when you need it most lol).

So, yes it is rare, but IMHO is also fairly worthless. For some reason or other, I seem to remember it sold for around the £28 mark back then, but would not value it anywhere near that now.

Edited to add: It is also worth noting that gas stoves have down down in price recently, and even the top of the range ones are becoming much cheaper. As an example I bought a 'Snow Peak giga power Ti' a few years back for £75....The same store now sell it for £60!. You can also buy ultra light and ultra fast stoves for as lilttle as £15.
I also only saw the site link late in writing my reply. I have to say that they are having a laugh at that price, but then you can find sites like that all over the internet charging stupidly high prices. I recently went onto Amazon looking for a DVD...Two sites had the same one. One sold it for £43 and the other for £2.99. NO prizes for guessing which I bought from :)

So, I am sorry if I sound like I am rubbishing this stove, but it was a poor seller (in this country), is very heavy, and takes over 8 minutes to boil 0.5 litre of water compared to a £15 cheapo job that will do that in 3 minutes!
 
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Oh I disagree entirely. We have two of these little catalytic stoves and they are brilliant.

They are rock solid reliable. No open flames, no issue with wind, safe to use inside a tent, and they're quick and adjustable, from a fast boil to a simmer. (where did you get the 8minutes from ??? Half way up Everest ? )

The stove is relatively heavy, needs to be on stable ground, and it stays hot, but by the time I've drunk my tea it's cool enough to be put by in it's bag.

It just always works. One click and it's alight, no fuss, no bother.
I bought mine from a fisherman's tackle shop, I think they were about £15. The canisters were always the resealable ones, so that the stove could be disengaged and put into it's bag.

One of the best bits is that they are absolutely clean. No soot on the pots, you can eat from the pot, or drink from your mug without ending up like a refugee from a coal mine :)

You have it now, go on give it a shot :D

cheers,
Toddy
 
Hi Kev, as I said on CCS I paid £6.99 for mine and the common problem with them is the ceramic plate cracking and there are no spares (mines not cracked because I've not used it). Putting a price on any stove is impossible really, its only worth what someone is prepared to pay you so you may get £5 you may get £50 on eBay its dependant on who spots the sale and how much they want one. I'd keep it Kev to be honest mate. As another member pointed out gas stoves are cheap as chips now, a good performer delivered from the far east for not much more than a tenner so put the stove in a cupboard for a few years then sell it.
 
Sorry folks, I totally got the wrong end of the stick here, I never even gave it a thought that someone would be collecting them :o
It's just the out for the day stove :)

I was told that spares are available, but that CampingGaz in France have them ? If this isn't so, how frequently do they crack ? Ours have been on the go for at least five years and haven't come to any grief in all that time, and they're used.

cheers,
Toddy
 
Hi Toddy.
I got the boil time from the stove manufacturer. It is also the boil time quoted in the link provided, and is correct. It certainly was not taken from half way up Everest, as this stove would not work there, due to it only having one type of cylinder available, and that one not working too well in the cold (even though it contains a gas mix).

As for working in a tent, the stove will still give off heat, and so will be just as dangerous as any other gas stove (and will be just as dangerous if it leaks). Also just like any other gas stove it will not soot up your pans.
If however you are happy with it then that is fine. Personally I would not value a stove that is heavy and actually can be fragile to start with, with the added disadvantage that it uses up to 250% more gas to boil water than its competitors.

Edited to add: I did sample and test this stove when it first came out, but found lots of disadvantages, and no worthwhile advantages (for non car based carrying).
I am no stove expert, but do review and test several stoves per year for various companies and groups, as well as teach safe use of outdoor stoves and cookers.

As an aside, does anyone remember the Camping Gaz globetrotter which came out at a similar time to this stove.........That was another attempt from Camping Gaz that never sold in any quantity.
 
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That's why I asked ;)

No idea where those figures came from then. This stove heats so controllably that fuel really lasts. One canister lasts for a weekend out.
With no open flames it doesn't sputter or catch on anything, and I can assure you that pots on other stoves do get dirty, no where near as bad as on a meths burner but it's still sooty.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, but we use ours and have done for five years in preference to every other one apart from the little suitcase wide based ones with full sized rings and so stable that lorry drivers use them in their cabs.

cheers,
Toddy
 
Ray Britton said:
Hi Toddy.
I got the boil time from the stove manufacturer. It is also the boil time quoted in the link provided, and is correct. It certainly was not taken from half way up Everest, as this stove would not work there, due to it only having one type of cylinder available, and that one not working too well in the cold (even though it contains a gas mix).

As for working in a tent, the stove will still give off heat, and so will be just as dangerous as any other gas stove (and will be just as dangerous if it leaks). Also just like any other gas stove it will not soot up your pans.
If however you are happy with it then that is fine. Personally I would not value a stove that is heavy and actually can be fragile to start with, with the added disadvantage that it uses up to 250% more gas to boil water than its competitors.

Edited to add: I did sample and test this stove when it first came out, but found lots of disadvantages, and no worthwhile advantages (for non car based carrying).
I am no stove expert, but do review and test several stoves per year for various companies and groups, as well as teach safe use of outdoor stoves and cookers.

As an aside, does anyone remember the Camping Gaz globetrotter which came out at a similar time to this stove.........That was another attempt from Camping Gaz that never sold in any quantity.
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Toddy, one of the Japanese collectors can't get spares and if they can't then you will struggle, the Japanese are the best stove collectors going certainly in the amount of coin they spend; I've bypassed eBay a couple of time and approached collectors out there with a stove and a price and bingo! instant sale:)

Ray, we'll have to disagree about the Globe Trotter, it was a popular little stove and the pans fit the 123's nicely:) Are you on CCS? We've talked several times about these gas cans in use at high altitude.
 
Hi Rik
I will agree the pans on the globetrotter were some of the very best pans money can buy....And I still use one half of a set until this day (as it compares very well to titanium ones costing loads more money too).
But, the stove itself did not sell well, and was fairly short lived in production. It had a good height, and good stability, but the smaller cylinders often sold for more money than the full size cornflower ones, and this along with the fact they lasted for shorter periods of time made the stove even more annoying to use for many walkers/hikers. A half empty 250 cart will last for three days or so, whereas a less than full globetrotter sized cart meant carrying a spare with you.

We all have our favourite stoves, but I have to say the Globetrotter does not even come close to the production volumes of something like a pocket rocket or even a SP giga power, and just did not stay in production for long. I would even imagine the A.N. Other brand copies of the pocket rocket have even outsold the globe trotter lol.

I am afraid I don't know what CCS is (sorry), but my comment towards the gas carts at high altitude was only aimed at the particular cart the cat stove uses, and not gas carts in general. Even the 'best' (often not the dearest) gas carts are far better used upside down at altitude which the OP's stove cant do.

Edited to add: as for favourite stoves, I still have the very first stove I ever bought, which was a camping Gaz cornflower stove. I've had it for 28 years, and never ever use it now, because it is rubbish basically, but still cant part with it lol (sorry for thread drift)
 
CCS is a place for sad gits who collect stoves like me hang out

http://www.spiritburner.com/fusion/showforum.php?fid/96/

In production for a couple of years me thinks, easy to convert to the full size cartridge (I've not bothered but many have). I invert gas cartridges on stoves like the Omnifuel but the new blends with Isobutane work pretty well and at high altitude the heat of the tent gets a stove running and as the temp increases so does performance without inverting the lid (atmospheric pressure helps too). If you get a Camping Gaz Tristar you can tip the can as its a remote stove.
 
I bought one of those Tristar's at the same time as the Cat stoves, afaik it's never even been used. It just seemed a good thing and himself fancied it.

cheers,
Toddy
 
Ray Britton said:
As an aside, does anyone remember the Camping Gaz globetrotter which came out at a similar time to this stove.........That was another attempt from Camping Gaz that never sold in any quantity.
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Yes I remember it....

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The lack of availability on the canisters killed them off... Judging by the number you see around on Ebay and the likes I guess they were reasonable sellers....

Camping Gaz have a history of producing interesting and short lived stoves and canisters.. The Rando 360 is another one that came and went...
 
I saw a camping gas stove with cannisters of a metalic blue, size and shape of a hairspray container.

(I will say now that I have no contact with hairspray containers, nor did I buy the stove)

what was it?
 
Hi.
I'm getting all nostalgic now!
I have had to dig out my first corn flower stove, as you mentioned converting the globe trotter to full size. Here is my first stove, complete with some wire legs I made so it could use the globe trotter sized carts too.

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I have never looked on fleabay for a globe trotter, but will say that if anyone wants some really good solo pans, that's a very good starting point.
 
rik_uk3 said:
Can you get the gas for those John in NZ? I picked up a few in Millets a couple of years ago reduced to IIRC 35p each, good little stove.
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No you cannot get the gas here... Occasionally someone on TM sells one with a few canisters.. That's about it...

GBP 5.00 is a bit expensive for one... 35p sounds right....
 
I've no stove now to go with the gas but one will turn up I guess, the day I got the gas cans was a good one in Millets Pontypridd, some area manager type was in there reducing stock left right and centre, I had the gas, half a dozen Sigg bottles for £1 each and a Trangia 25 with kettle but no box for a tenner. Wish I had more days like that:(
 
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