relying on fire ?

[Mandos]

should i be relying on fire when on a night out or should i have a backup plan aswell
if so what would you all recommend on a tight budget and minimum space as walking ?

 

[copper_head]

I always have some sort of stove, plenty of options out there. I like meths stoves for their lightness as a back up.

 

[Man of Tanith]

honey stove?
can brun stuff in it, but you can also run a meths burner or hexiblocks in it
collapses tiny too

 

[Ed Edwards]

I always have some sort of stove, plenty of options out there. I like meths stoves for their lightness as a back up.

+ 1. Big fan of Alc Stoves and they're great fun to make.

 

[Teepee]

A little diy Cat stove and 4 oz squeezy bottle of meths usually accompany my hobo stove.

A backup stove and fuel for 5 oz and not much room taken up.

 

[woodspirits]

+ for a backup, and its handy first thing as you crawl out of your pit for that first no hastle quick brew.

 

[Harvestman]

It isn't recommended, but warm clothes mean that if you have to you can go without fire entirely. All the advice above is good though.

 

[Ogri the trog]

should i be relying on fire when on a night out or should i have a backup plan aswell
if so what would you all recommend on a tight budget and minimum space as walking ?

If you think that you'll have to rely on a fire and all that it entails (having access to enough fuel, the time, tools & energy to process it, the ability to store it in a dry place, to keep that fire stoked through the night and to deal with the resulting ashes the following day) think about what the implications would be if any part of that sequence failed -

As for recommendations, a covering tarp, groundcloth, sleeping bag, bivi bag, warm clothing etc etc etc.

It can all be done on a budget but it depends upon what you already have access to.

ATB

Ogri the trog

 

[digitracker]

I use a honey stove and an alcohol stove (white box stove} as a secondary option.

 

[monkey boy]

It's always a good idea to carry a little stove, if your planning to have a fire and not use a stove just take a small coke can or better yet a monkey boy stove just incase the fire fails you.

 

[roman-soldier]

Woodgas stove and a trangia stored inside with one load of meths just in case, or like woodspirit says that morning brew.

 

[BJJJ]

Hope for the best but plan for the worst ( a back up is a good idea)

 

[Elen Sentier]

It isn't recommended, but warm clothes mean that if you have to you can go without fire entirely. All the advice above is good though.

I agree! I'd want to know I could manage even if, for some reason, I couldn't have a fire.

 

[rik_uk3]

If you take a Honey stove or hobo stove your still relying on fire so take a little stove using a fuel other than wood, small gas stove or a small Trangia 27.

 

[PDA1]

If you do use a wood fire, it should always be contained so that you can "leave no trace". On a tight budget, make a hobo stove for this purpose from a used food can. As others advise: take a back up, you can make an alcohol burner easily for free (and it is fun, addictive even). So, a complete lightweight, compact system for free. The hobo stove acts as a wind screen and pot stand when using the alcohol burner.

 

[Elen Sentier]

If you take a Honey stove or hobo stove your still relying on fire so take a little stove using a fuel other than wood, small gas stove or a small Trangia 27.

Dhhhhhhhhhh ??? I'm not understanding that. Isn't a gas stove fire ??? Is it plasma already ??? It certainly ain't water

 

[Elen Sentier]

If you do use a wood fire, it should always be contained so that you can "leave no trace". On a tight budget, make a hobo stove for this purpose from a used food can. As others advise: take a back up, you can make an alcohol burner easily for free (and it is fun, addictive even). So, a complete lightweight, compact system for free. The hobo stove acts as a wind screen and pot stand when using the alcohol burner.

I can't recall if anyone's already said it but when I use a Honey/Hobo (or even a gas stove perhaps) I put a piece of welder's mat underneath to save the grass/earth from sparks and heat and find it helps a lot.

 

[11binf]

hi Mandos...regardless if i can find fire wood or not i always take a hexy-stove of some type...i bring my Brit.hexy or my Germ. Esbit or my wing stove all burn hexy/Esbit/Trioxane tabs... mind you these are used to heat up chow and make a brew and not made to cook a three course meal...but thier is nothing to spill in the pack and easy clean up and put away... vince g. 11B INF...

 

[santaman2000]

Dhhhhhhhhhh ??? I'm not understanding that. Isn't a gas stove fire ??? Is it plasma already ??? It certainly ain't water

The point is gas or oyher fuels simply require the touch of a match to light. A woodburning stove still leaves the problem of finding dry fuel or trying to light wet fuel.

And NO! Most of us don't really consider a gas fire a TRUE fire,

 

[rik_uk3]

Dhhhhhhhhhh ??? I'm not understanding that. Isn't a gas stove fire ??? Is it plasma already ??? It certainly ain't water

Santaman summed it up, hobo or Honey stove need wood which you can't always rely on finding or getting to work, gas stove uses gas, Trangia burns alcohol and both light instantly.

Subject to the demands of my bladder, I like to make my first brew without having to leave my sleeping bag when cold camping :yelrotflm