Pocket Dump

[Pattree]

I carry a large bunch of keys because I am good at losing small things to reckon and I have unwittingly tested this, dropping such a bunch makes such a racket am caused to notice and with ease find, in addition the heft assures me of their presence upon my person without physically checking of which I do anyway , a habit left over from my mob experience.

Absolutely understand except that, lacking your discipline, I could (would) easily forget to check - so I don’t

This is not a pocket dump - it only accounts for two of the nine pockets in my trousers.

The light curb chain runs through the eye of a snap shackle that carries the house keys. The shackle is clipped through a belt loop.
I never disconnect anything from the chain.

The car key reaches the dash with everything else in situ. The house keys on the shackle unclip from my belt loop with a single tug- still connected to the running chain.

Before you mock - I have not lost my car keys, my house keys or my wallet once in the last thirty-five years. Of course it could happen tomorrow as my two brain cells become more and more estranged.

I adopted the chain while working in Africa. I’ve tried cords of various sorts, including retractable ones but a light chain is far more manageable.

 

[JamesP]

Nice. Custom scales on the knife? Is it a Para3?

PM2 with Flytanium canvas micarta lotus scales.

 

[JamesP]

Absolutely understand except that, lacking your discipline, I could (would) easily forget to check - so I don’t

This is not a pocket dump - it only accounts for two of the nine pockets in my trousers.
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The light curb chain runs through the eye of a snap shackle that carries the house keys. The shackle is clipped through a belt loop.
I never disconnect anything from the chain.

The car key reaches the dash with everything else in situ. The house keys on the shackle unclip from my belt loop with a single tug- still connected to the running chain.

Before you mock - I have not lost my car keys, my house keys or my wallet once in the last thirty-five years. Of course it could happen tomorrow as my two brain cells become more and more estranged.

I adopted the chain while working in Africa. I’ve tried cords of various sorts, including retractable ones but a light chain is far more manageable.

Getting flashbacks to HMP Wandsworth visits

 

[Chris]

Getting flashbacks to HMP Wandsworth visits

Segues nicely into where I put my car keys for safekeeping...

 

[Silverclaws2]

Absolutely understand except that, lacking your discipline, I could (would) easily forget to check - so I don’t

This is not a pocket dump - it only accounts for two of the nine pockets in my trousers.
View attachment 101689
The light curb chain runs through the eye of a snap shackle that carries the house keys. The shackle is clipped through a belt loop.
I never disconnect anything from the chain.

The car key reaches the dash with everything else in situ. The house keys on the shackle unclip from my belt loop with a single tug- still connected to the running chain.

Before you mock - I have not lost my car keys, my house keys or my wallet once in the last thirty-five years. Of course it could happen tomorrow as my two brain cells become more and more estranged.

I adopted the chain while working in Africa. I’ve tried cords of various sorts, including retractable ones but a light chain is far more manageable.

I won't mock as my zipped Tasmin Tiger RFiD block wallet is also ' tied on' clipped to my pants with a bronze sail halyard shackle - (all that remains on my old rotted Mirror dinghy), though I use a paracord lanyard.

 

[hughtrimble]

@Pattree When you say the chain is looped through a belt loop, do you mean the flimsy cloth stitched things that hold your belt in place on trousers, or do you mean a dedicated loop like on a dangler knife sheath which your belt threads through?

 

[Pattree]

The chain runs through the steel eye of the shackle. The shackle is clipped into the fabric belt loop of my trousers. If the loop were to be snapped everything is still attached to the wallet in one zipped pocket and the car key in another. Neither the car key nor the wallet will pass through the eye of the shackle.

The whole set up is an antidote to absent mindedness rather than a security measure.

In my Africa days I put a chain mender loop

onto my leather belt and clipped the shackle to that but the chain that I’m using now can be snapped with a really good heave.

All anyone has to do to get my stuff is to threaten me. In most cases I’d hand it over.

Edited to add:
Many African boarding gates have their metal detectors set to be very sensitive. Women have to take out hair pins and we All remove shoes with eyelets.

They probably picked up this lot while I was still in the coffee lounge.

 

[hughtrimble]

You could just loop it over your belt itself if you don't want to have another keeper on your belt? I used to carry my ferro rod looped with paracord through my belt loop until one of Paul Kirtley's courses prompted me to reconsider given how easy they are to rip off accidentally; it's now looped over the belt so that it really isn't going anywhere if snagged on a branch or the like (not really thinking of a pickpocket but yes much more relevant to your wallet!)

 

[stonepark]

Belt Pouch
- Victorinox Champ EDC or when outdoors/shooting etc Victorinox Outrider

Right Pocket
- Car Key
- Victorinox Classic SD
- Spare Dog Whistle
- 600lm Light
- Mini Pill Box
- Tritium Light (Less than 1 year Old)

left Pocket
- Tritium Light (10 year Old)
- Trolley Key
- House and garage Keys

 

[Granite Head]

You have sent me down a rabbit hole here. What size is the Snap Shackle?

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The light curb chain runs through the eye of a snap shackle that carries the house keys. The shackle is clipped through a belt loop.

 

[Pattree]

Mine is a 62mm closed loop snap shackle.

They have quite a range

You may find versions with a swivel and a shackle pin more useful. Just search quick release snap shackle and you’ll see all sorts.



For no practical reason I have an affection for the pelican shackle - but then I enjoy splicing rope too.



Since coming to BcUK I have wondered whether the smaller snap shackles might be useful in all sorts of ways in various set ups. The one on my belt has a stated breaking stain of two tonnes!!! (I don’t believe it.)

We are a wee bit off topic as the shackle keeps my keys OUT of my pockets.


(Token OP response )
Does no one pocket a handkerchief or equivalent?

 

[Silverclaws2]

Mine is a 62mm closed loop snap shackle.

They have quite a range

You may find versions with a swivel and a shackle pin more useful. Just search quick release snap shackle and you’ll see all sorts.
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For no practical reason I have an affection for the pelican shackle - but then I enjoy splicing rope too.

View attachment 101695

Since coming to BcUK I have wondered whether the smaller snap shackles might be useful in all sorts of ways in various set ups. The one on my belt has a stated breaking stain of two tonnes!!! (I don’t believe it.)

We are a wee bit off topic as the shackle keeps my keys OUT of my pockets.


(Token OP response )
Does no one pocket a handkerchief or equivalent?

Am using a half inch fixed bail bronze shackle of which is good enough for attaching a 550 paracord lanyard to. The lanyard loop at both ends is slimly formed using Raychem glued heatshrink.

Been using sailing hardware for years where because of a sailing past I know how good this stuff is

 

[Silverclaws2]

You could just loop it over your belt itself if you don't want to have another keeper on your belt? I used to carry my ferro rod looped with paracord through my belt loop until one of Paul Kirtley's courses prompted me to reconsider given how easy they are to rip off accidentally; it's now looped over the belt so that it really isn't going anywhere if snagged on a branch or the like (not really thinking of a pickpocket but yes much more relevant to your wallet!)M

If one wears a belt and not braces of which are distinctly more comfortable.

Attaching to the belt loop is good enough for myself and I have on occasion got the lanyard hung up on door handles to unwittingly test my attachment.

I did try one of Kirtley's suggestions before alighting on the belt loop on a pair of cargo pants being strong enough thing, I tried the belt through karabiner but found it uncomfortable both in belt and karabiner.

 

[JamesP]

Mine is a 62mm closed loop snap shackle.

They have quite a range

You may find versions with a swivel and a shackle pin more useful. Just search quick release snap shackle and you’ll see all sorts.
View attachment 101694


For no practical reason I have an affection for the pelican shackle - but then I enjoy splicing rope too.

View attachment 101695

Since coming to BcUK I have wondered whether the smaller snap shackles might be useful in all sorts of ways in various set ups. The one on my belt has a stated breaking stain of two tonnes!!! (I don’t believe it.)

We are a wee bit off topic as the shackle keeps my keys OUT of my pockets.


(Token OP response )
Does no one pocket a handkerchief or equivalent?

+1 on a pocket hankie….. and always a glasses cloth….

 

[TeeDee]

Whom are actually carrying these knives as every day carries??

Be honest


## should add - no personal judgement - I'm just asking out of interest. ##

 

[Pattree]

Deleted - I was being silly.

 

[Chris]

Whom are actually carrying these knives as every day carries??

Be honest

I always carry my knife (usually two because I have a one handed opener plus a multitool which has an incidental knife), other than if going to a pub in a city or something. Always a UK legal one though, just isn’t worth the risk.

 

[Nice65]

How you finding that Steeldive?

Not sure I replied to this. In short, it’s brilliant. A fairly thick case, so it flops about on a traditional NATO, but no matter with single pass or springbar straps. Thoroughly reliable, and despite being a chunk, sits very nicely on the wrist.

Just changing to get some planting done and it’s a nice pocket dump today.