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According to many, 'mainstream', or traditional news organisations have lost a lot of credibilty over recent years. That, along with the rise in accessibility to other sources of information (citizen journalism, long-format podcasts/interviews/discussions, youtube (and other platforms) accounts run by people with varying degrees of knowledge or expertise on current events etc) seems to have created a shift in how people access and digest information about the current goings-on in the world.

Where do you look to for news? And, what do you consider important factors when deciding where, or from who, that information is coming from?
 
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I do not trust anything with a political slant from mainstream social media (Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, YouTube). Algorithm based, people claiming to be experts who really are not and then the deliberate misinformation spread by bad actors (governmental, corporate and ideological). I say this with confidence, as my work in the software engineering (and media) industry has allowed me to see that this is undisputedly true.

Mainstream media I would be selective. The reporting of a large event by something like the BBC I’d listen to, for example ‘The Queen as died’ or ‘Russia invaded Ukraine’. Objective events. Vox pops from someone in Blackpool town centre on a Tuesday morning, about an issue they have no understanding of, I do not listen to.

MSM, especially since Covid, has become entirely addicted to the 24/7 doom cycle. It’s in their interests to get ‘engagement’ at the cost of anything else, really. Rage bait, general clickbait, posting tweets from random people and pretending that’s journalism… it’s all gone utterly to pot. Again, my professional experience has really highlighted this for me, perhaps moreso than those outside of the industry.

Financial Times seemed reasonable, though expensive so I only kept that going for the discounted period of a few months. I hear similar comments regarding The Economist.

Any news org with a strong political bias (GB News, Daily Mail, The Guardian) I will just outright not listen to. I don’t care if they are occasionally correct, the very fact they muddy the waters in the first place means their integrity is compromised.

I’ve generally decided that I cannot do a single thing about Gaza, the US government, or any of the other million things that it seems society deems us all to need to have an opinion on. So I don’t read about it or listen to it. I trust expert diplomats, academics and scientists to deal with it as they know far more than me and it is their job to do so.

Long form discussions or literature from people with actual, relevant qualifications on the subject matter can be good. I do think that I am more skeptical of those who argue against strong scientific consensus on some topics, especially when those arguments may also ‘coincidentally’ serve nefarious interests. Peer reviewed literature from reputable academic sources is always far more preferable to me than other formats.

There is The Sunday Long Read, and Delayed Gratification, both of which are after-the-fact longer form journalism. It’s quite nice to read about things once the facts are known and with the benefit of hindsight, rather than just trying to pick out the fact from opinion as events unfold. Why do we *need* to get the ‘breaking’ news, anyway? What benefit does it provide us 99.999% of the time?

I am sure I have my own biases just like anyone else, so whilst I try to be fair and objective the reality is that I can only try my best. The truth is, given the huge amount of disinformation out there, it’s incredibly hard to trust any organisations or mediums of communication… which I suppose is the point of disinformation.
 
Yep, I agree, I trust very little - every news source needs an audience to make money and will tend towards one or more groups.

I will read from a variety of sources if I want to get to the bottom of something, then I'll make my own judgement but be prepared to shift as the real information starts to come in.

Remember - there's always a third truth! :)
 
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I trust the BBC for the main headlines and current major events..

I do not trust much in newsprint as I feel that it is biased towards sensation and selling newspapers in one form of another.

Parliamentary / opposition news releases take an awful lot of work to interpret.

I also regularly use Reuters and AlJezira if I need to check up on a point. Chicken Noodle News can be useful if superficial when abroad.

I do read the newspaper headlines on the BBC app. It is amusing to relate the headline bias to the political stance of the ownership.

There was a time when opinion only appeared in the opinion column of a newspaper. Now the editorial bias appears in the headline.

The Financial Times can be useful in that I can infer news from articles that are not specifically carrying news but are reporting the financial implications of world events.

While I use my phone to access news I do not use any social medium within the generally accepted definition.
 
I'm not sure what others will have to say on it and I can't say I use it specifically ( Pretty much gave up on News a while back as clearly most western media has a definite political leaning ) but Ground News is supposed to offer a intentionally ( at least claimed ) smorgasboard of reporting

 
I trust the BBC for the main headlines and current major events..
The BBC has its own biases.

Of course, so do I!

It's always good to cross check news stories even when coming from 'reputable' sources.

One thing I will say for the BBC is they rarely publish direct falsehoods, unlike the billionaire owned press, but most stories do have an editorial slant.
 
UK column news is reasonably neutral. As people have already said the mainstream is not to be trusted. I don't know what to believe anymore. A lot of the 'alternative media' is likely controlled opposition. I have a good starting point whereby I do not believe anything, On hearing a news item I then ask myself if something is 1, possible. 2, plausible and 3 probable. and then I want the best available proof. x
 
Private eye, Channel 4 news (BBC, fell off the list with their coverage of the Gaza genocide where Palestinians "Died today" but Israelis were "Killed").
I do watch a bit of Youtube but try to avoid being in the search bubble by never signing into it, and rejecting cookies. That's not perfect but its a start.

Not from GB News, nor Facebook though.
Im not unbiased but do try to lessen it as much as I can.

I do realise that may cause some dummy spitting, it'll be interesting from who though.
Pressure up :)
 
I don't really check the news, as such, nowadays. I find the ideological positioning and biases hard to stomach, and trust and credibilty are both very thin on the ground.
I'll keep a broad overview on any major goings-on, but any subjects that I might be interested in, I'll follow up independently from a wide range of sources. There are still some reasonable voices out there amongst the chaos. Navigating that chaos isn't always easy though.

Generally, local news is of much more relevance and interest to me.
 
I have seen YouTube algorithms working even when I've not signed in. Similarly other sites. I even get ads related to topics other people in our house looks at so I need suspect analytics related to our broadband connection. So do not trust any of the algorithm based sites at any time is my advice.

Grauniad is a problematic source. It can have some very good content but so much is based on opinion these days. I think they went very wrong with the comment is free strand. It started ok with opinion pieces from respected people from the full political spectrum, but then they started to filter out the right and recruiting less respected mouthpieces for the far left. Often without counter. Then they basically ditched the last truly credible commentator from the right in questionable circumstances. Then they moved the comment is free into a mainstream news position, like it would put opinion as news.

I still miss a certain Chinese, English language news outlet, cannot recall the name, but about 10-15 years ago they were the least biased news outlet when the others were starting to differentiate away from honest news to biased news. I want to think al Jazeera could be a little like that but then you see their news on certain areas like Israel/Gaza, Iran and USA. They can do good news but then not.

I think the only thing is to read about every main topic from a wide range of sources then trying to find the truth from the average, if that makes sense.

Personally I think you get bias everywhere. If you can't see it then perhaps it's with you!
 

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