Military survival kit
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SAS is issued with these (Eddie Stone showed it in one of the BBC "SAS - are you tough enough" series).
What ordinairy squaddies carry ... dunno
Dutch squaddies don't carry one (if they do so, it's one they bought / made themselves).
But have a look at the site, lots of "shiny" kits :yikes:
SAS is issued with these (Eddie Stone showed it in one of the BBC "SAS - are you tough enough" series).
What ordinairy squaddies carry ... dunno
Dutch squaddies don't carry one (if they do so, it's one they bought / made themselves).But have a look at the site, lots of "shiny" kits
:yikes:
The British Army does not issue any survival kit not even to Special Forces unless it is a specific piece of kit you request for a job, this could include and air crew survival kit, but many regiments do have an SOP that you carry a survival kit in your kit. Army air crews are provided the same kit as the RAF.
UK Special Forces are instructed on the sort of things that could be used and it is down to you to provide your own kit. To be honest a soldiers survival kit is his belt order and pocket kit, this should combine enough equipment to survive any length of time till you can make contact with friendlys.
The survival equipment that is stashed on the person normally makes up your Escape and Evasion kit which is designed to escape unnoticed the most basic of searches by your captors.
In many cases it is down to individual regiments on the sort of survival training they provide and most dont put a lot in. Hugh McManners was one of the Battery Commanders in my regiment and I never saw or heard of him give any survival training. And now he is an author of survival books!
UK Special Forces are instructed on the sort of things that could be used and it is down to you to provide your own kit. To be honest a soldiers survival kit is his belt order and pocket kit, this should combine enough equipment to survive any length of time till you can make contact with friendlys.
The survival equipment that is stashed on the person normally makes up your Escape and Evasion kit which is designed to escape unnoticed the most basic of searches by your captors.
In many cases it is down to individual regiments on the sort of survival training they provide and most dont put a lot in. Hugh McManners was one of the Battery Commanders in my regiment and I never saw or heard of him give any survival training. And now he is an author of survival books!
they get issued that go-pack survival kit? Not a hole lot of quantity or quality! i own one, but got all the guts out and made it in to a FAK and used the guts for other kits and stuff.
capacious said:
Lesson learnt: don't trust the telly
Thank you for correcting the false info I gave Capacious!!
The aircrews always were issued with the best survival kits (as far as I remember).
I think you can still purchase the RAF issue kits (minus the knife etc) from your local army surplus but can be expensive for what you get. I still have bits of mine and still use the plastic container to house my own emergency bits and bobs kit.
If other forces required specialist items then the QM would outsource to civilian manufacturers (well thats what I did). The basic personnal usually end up buying thier own specialist items anyway. As for SF, well thats another story....
I think you can still purchase the RAF issue kits (minus the knife etc) from your local army surplus but can be expensive for what you get. I still have bits of mine and still use the plastic container to house my own emergency bits and bobs kit.
If other forces required specialist items then the QM would outsource to civilian manufacturers (well thats what I did). The basic personnal usually end up buying thier own specialist items anyway. As for SF, well thats another story....
The RAF kits, at least the major componets of them are indeed made and supplied by BCB international.
For those of you who can get a hold of the SCOC disc from your stores section, do a search for survival kit. It throws up a few items, the fishing kit is quite good, the line is braided nylon to 50lbs break, and you get a good selection of flies and hooks! They also cost about five quid as opposed to £20 that they go for on Ebay!!!
To those of you who don't know what I am on about, sorry!!
To those of you who don't know what I am on about, sorry!!
Spamel
Maybe you would add a list of NSNs, with descriptions, to this thread or maybe PM me.
Cheers
Maybe you would add a list of NSNs, with descriptions, to this thread or maybe PM me.
Cheers
Any survival kit you make is better than a store bought one. You care about your a**, the store cares about your $$$. I use a Doug Ritter PSK as a base and add to it. It is the most honest kit out there. He tells you it is an incomplete kit and gives suggestions of items you may want to add. Try to find that info on any of those "complete" kits!
SpeedHook (for fishing) and Thompson survival snares are something you may want to also look into. SpeedHook is kind of like a snare for fishing.
"How To Build The Perfect Survival Kit" by John D. McCann is a great book. I knew much of the info but it really helped me organize my kits.
"98.6 Degrees" by Cody Lundin is a good book too but get the above first. This book is 1/2 survival and 1/2 kit book. If you do make your kit like Cody's it will weigh around 2 pounds. I made two and ended up breaking them down for other kits. A two pound kit is fine if that is all you carry, but if carring a full hiking load then a 2 pound kit is a bit heavy.
The #1 rule of making a survival kit is DO NOT PACK ANYTHING YOU HAVE NOT TESTED! Condom as water carrier? Doesn't work for me. Mag block? Doesn't work for me. Cotton balls? Doesn't work for me. I use Zip-lock bags, Firesteels, and cotton/wax "earplugs". Also found out that a brand of lighter died while in storage even though it still had fuel This is why I like to make two kits, one for training and one packed ready for emergencies.
SpeedHook (for fishing) and Thompson survival snares are something you may want to also look into. SpeedHook is kind of like a snare for fishing.
"How To Build The Perfect Survival Kit" by John D. McCann is a great book. I knew much of the info but it really helped me organize my kits.
"98.6 Degrees" by Cody Lundin is a good book too but get the above first. This book is 1/2 survival and 1/2 kit book. If you do make your kit like Cody's it will weigh around 2 pounds. I made two and ended up breaking them down for other kits. A two pound kit is fine if that is all you carry, but if carring a full hiking load then a 2 pound kit is a bit heavy.
The #1 rule of making a survival kit is DO NOT PACK ANYTHING YOU HAVE NOT TESTED! Condom as water carrier? Doesn't work for me. Mag block? Doesn't work for me. Cotton balls? Doesn't work for me. I use Zip-lock bags, Firesteels, and cotton/wax "earplugs". Also found out that a brand of lighter died while in storage even though it still had fuel
This is why I like to make two kits, one for training and one packed ready for emergencies.
If they were suposed to give stuff out it would be called an ISSUE!Brian said:How right you are mate.
Not forgetting that stores are for storing!!!
Brian
I think that is what storemen have the most of
Ahjno said:Lesson learnt: don't trust the telly
Thank you for correcting the false info I gave Capacious!!
Sorry, I didn't mean to shout you down or anything, nearly all of the information you hear about the SAS on the TV or in publications is twisted and distorted beyond recognition by the powers that be, even the stuff that ex-SAS troopers say. There is very little about the regiment that is actually known except by the people who are in it.
Sorry again, I didn't mean to sound harsh.
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