Definitely helps having an underlayer of the gutted cord for the visible layer to grip onto, i've got some 2mm leather thong and i'm trying to use that as the visible layer with the Strider weave, finding it tricky as i have to wax/oil the thong to make it supple enough for the bending but this makes it difficult to hold onto once you get going, if i get it right i'll snap some pics and load them up