DoE Changes & Bushcraft

Lithril

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With the DoE expedition changes (time spent rather than distance) and bushcraft becoming a bigger part of the syllabus, has anyone started teaching the students any bushcraft yet to bulk out their days?
 

Gary

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Im off doing a course for DoE next weekend Lithril - I'll let you know how it goes. :biggthump
 

Lithril

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Please Gary, I've been talking to some of the local groups, including the school that I help out at and they're very interested in introducing the bushcraft aspect as it compliments the expedition/exploring section nicely. The trouble with most of the schools is that none of them really know where to start.
 

Gary

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No worries mate, what I am doing is for MOD (cadet forces) but I am sure it would able be applicable to schools and scouts as its all the same award.

I will get the low down on it all and let you know.

Might even be in a position to help you with the programme/teaching but first let me find out the full score.
 

falling rain

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Hi Lithril, how's tricks ?
I'm running the D of E for Thame 594 sqn and I've been teaching them Bushcraft for about a year now as they love the subject and it fits in nicely with Expedition training and being shot down and surviving behind enemy lines etc as pilots possibly could be. (kids love all that type of stuff ) I wasn't aware they were focussing more on it for D of E officially now though. I'll have to check out the website. my lot may have the jump on it then which would make a change :super:
 

Lithril

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I'm not bad thanks, long time no see.

There is actually a bushcraft section on the DoE syllabus now. I think the key thing with this is that if a group doesn't want to walk as far or plans to finish slightly early in a day, instead of extending the route, they can actually plan bushcraft into the day.
 

Gary

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Lithril,

As far as I can ascertain the expedition part of DoE isn't changed its still distance x days ect.

What has changed is the Skill part of the syllabus - the bushcraft/survival syllabus is run between 3 - 6 months and has to be tested by a competent person. However if you are their instructor you cannot also be their adjudicator - this is what I am doing this weekend.

The adjudicator can advise on how the syllabus should be run but he cannot teach only test.

Try this address,

http://www.theaward.org/involved/index.php?ids=48,120,340,1183&id=1046

That should get you there.

I will let you know how the adjudicationg goes when I get back.
 

Lithril

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If it hasn't changed now then its about too, its to try and give less able people that couldn't cover the distance a chance to obtain the award.
 

Gary

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Sound fair enough to me - anyway have a look at the link, it might help.
 

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I thought there were certain things less that people with ess ability could do and still get the award. I had nobody to test half my stff so it fell through after the camping and service.
 

Lithril

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You're still young enough to complete it if you wanted too. Up till now the expedition part was a realy struggle for less able persons
 

JimFSC

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The D of E has changed- you spend a certain number of hours in 'daylight activity' rather than walking a minimum distance. This means you can spend time teaching bushcraft skills at a fixed site. Or doing any other activity where participants are learning/ investigating. Additionally bushcraft is now accepted as a skill (indeed other Isle of Wight groups are interested in having me teach it as a skill) by the D of E. Hope this helps, Jim. :wave:
 

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