Coil basket and backpack

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GreyCat

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I have been on some more basketry courses.... week before last was a backpack, week just gone was a coil basket course. I have a sfot spot for th ePolish asymmetric border so have been playing a bit with it on these courses.

Slowly improving..... it's very therapeutic.


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Still have the final trim to do on the coil basket, want to let it dry for another day or two first.

GC
 
Great work! I love the backpack. They both look very professional to me :)

In Wales (or North Wales at least) there never was much willow, so the traditional basket making was done using split hazel. It's a painful finger cutting process. I've done a one day tutorial and only got as far as preparing the material. I'd love to do a longer course but haven't found one yet :(
 
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Wonderful. Well done indeed.
The back pack would make a great foraging basket.

How do the straps attach?

The straps go through the wales at top and bottom- loop on the inside, each strap is a single piece of leather with a buckle. The wales were put on to make those parts of the backpack strong enough to cope.

I am planning to use one of my old external framed backpacks to make a backpack-basket. Basically using the aluminium frame as the basket frame and weaving directly onto it. Would be an interesting experiment, the backpack is woven onto a Catalan tension base (which is a framed base), so it should work- basically make the backpack frame lower ledge into the base frame, build a tension base onto it then weave up. If it's made with brown (bark-on) willow it should be fairly water resistant, and a coating of natural wax/oil of some sort once finished would no doubt enhance that.

Great work! I love the backpack. They both look very professional to me :)

In Wales (or North Wales at least) there never was much willow, so the traditional basket making was done using split hazel. It's a painful finger cutting process. I've done a one day tutorial and only got as far as preparing the material. I'd love to do a longer course but haven't found one yet :(

The Cyntell (Gwyntell) basket was made with willow.... and is a very specific weave and style..... depends where you are in Wales I guess, certainly the Cyntell is a traditional SW Wales basket. (Sometimes the main ribs are made with hazel but it's woven with willow).

I suspect we had a lot more traditional forms of willow basket in days gone by, but few survived in England/Wales after the industrialisation of willow weaving underpinned by the coming of the railway- only the stuff that was made by the "professional" survived and the stuff made locally was replaced by mass produced baskets brought in by railway. So we moved to buff and white willow baskets made in mass production workshops- whereas in rural areas, agricultural baskets would have been made with whatever was to hand.

If you can find a copy of Joe Hogan's book about baskets in Ireland, it's very interesting, as the rural/local tradition seemed to have survivied much longer there, and he describes a great variety of materials/techniques used to make local baskets. Some have parallels in Wales- e.g. a form of agricultural basket uses the Cyntell weave.

GC
 
The straps go through the wales at top and bottom- loop on the inside, each strap is a single piece of leather with a buckle. The wales were put on to make those parts of the backpack strong enough to cope.

I am planning to use one of my old external framed backpacks to make a backpack-basket. Basically using the aluminium frame as the basket frame and weaving directly onto it. Would be an interesting experiment, the backpack is woven onto a Catalan tension base (which is a framed base), so it should work- basically make the backpack frame lower ledge into the base frame, build a tension base onto it then weave up. If it's made with brown (bark-on) willow it should be fairly water resistant, and a coating of natural wax/oil of some sort once finished would no doubt enhance that.



The Cyntell (Gwyntell) basket was made with willow.... and is a very specific weave and style..... depends where you are in Wales I guess, certainly the Cyntell is a traditional SW Wales basket. (Sometimes the main ribs are made with hazel but it's woven with willow).

I suspect we had a lot more traditional forms of willow basket in days gone by, but few survived in England/Wales after the industrialisation of willow weaving underpinned by the coming of the railway- only the stuff that was made by the "professional" survived and the stuff made locally was replaced by mass produced baskets brought in by railway. So we moved to buff and white willow baskets made in mass production workshops- whereas in rural areas, agricultural baskets would have been made with whatever was to hand.

If you can find a copy of Joe Hogan's book about baskets in Ireland, it's very interesting, as the rural/local tradition seemed to have survivied much longer there, and he describes a great variety of materials/techniques used to make local baskets. Some have parallels in Wales- e.g. a form of agricultural basket uses the Cyntell weave.

GC

Totally agree :)

I went with another basketmaket to an exhibition in Falkirk and there was a huge number of Joe's baskets there. Utterly inspiring :) a delight to see. Better than any art show :D
Somewhere I have photos.....no idea where.
I'll look :)
 
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Yeah I have been seeing these to observe the distinct benefit of an open wicker backpack to haul stuff that it doesn't matter if it gets wet around in for the idea to appear when I got my recent kelly kettle. To think yeah, manky sooted it plus food and makings better in a basket than a bag , for ideas to form about learning basket weaving for, but also with reference to one of the 10 c's, the field made container and the fish trap for a basket weaving course to be on my list of things to do

But very well done.
 
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The traditional Kishie is ideal for that kind of lugging around.

If it's made with dockens as the stems then you can even carry fish in it, because any mess or stink just washes off.
Made from what most would consider weeds.
The wee field rush and dock plants.

Upfront it's surprising how long it takes you to make 40 fathoms of rush rope though. One of those quiet around the fire things.

We greatly underrate the vast variety of plants that will make a decent basket.
For instance the oldest fishtrap that we know of in Europe, thousands of years old, is made from Privet...the same stuff that's cut close to make a hedge. If it's left in peace it'll grow long fine flexible withies that weave brilliantly :)
 
Privet...the same stuff that's cut close to make a hedge. If it's left in peace it'll grow long fine flexible withies that weave brilliantly
Don’t I know it!!!!!
D’ You want some?
I cut my hedges and half my grass just once a year. Plenty of four foot stems to take off in September if the birds have finished nesting.
 

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