111 Hiker help

[Gray]

Hi everyone, need some advice on this if poss. Got an old 111 Hiker out the shed, cleaned it up, half filled it with methanol and fired it up. Brilliant, no leaks, perfect, stuck a pan on it with 1 cupfull of water and this is the result after 15 mins, hot but not boiling, wot am I doing wrong

 

[widu13]

Unless you have changed the jet, most are petrol or kero. My 5 year old one is kero.

 

[Gray]

I've no idea how old this is. It says in the lid when using alcohol or meth spirit to place the restrictor tube in the middle of the burner, so i have. Do you think i would get better reults with different fuel?

 

[bilmo-p5]

Try it with paraffin and without the restrictor tube. Have a good look at the jet and see if there's a letter stamped into it. If it has an 'M' you should be able to burn petrol or paraffin. They were never very good on alcohol without a dedicated alcohol (marked 'A') jet. Alcohol burners like loads of fuel & not much air.
Bring it to Barbon and we'll sort it for you. The bloke who's bringing me is a stovie of note.

 

[rik_uk3]

What Bimlio said, and Ross will sort it out no problem.

 

[Gray]

Brill, thanks very much fellas

 

[bilmo-p5]

....and Ross will sort it out no problem.

Ross isn't taking me to Barbon.

 

[Gray]

Thanks anyway guys, i really appreciate any help i get no matter who its from, happy bunny if i get this sorted as i bought 5 gallons of methanol last week lol.

 

[widu13]

The jet (nipple) just unscrews.

http://www.base-camp.co.uk/exploded views/Optimus/111 Hike.htm

 

[Gray]

Widu sorry buddy, wot are u saying, that the jet might be loose or it needs cleaning or is this the bit thats stamped with a letter. Sorry you must think i'm thick

 

[rik_uk3]

Ross isn't taking me to Barbon.

My error, he said recently he wanted to brush up his bushcraft basics, your taking a stovie so put 2 and 2 together but but got 5.

The 111T will run on methanol with the restrictor tube but really you want an 'A' jet from Base-camp but..... it really is not fuel of choice, use your methanol in a nice real Trangia or Clas Olson Purple Flame clone (or even the dreaded army monstrosity). To be honest I've run mine on meths just to try it out. I've got a load of methanol so next few camps I'll just be cooking on Trangia's and a Heatpal or two, use some fuel up. Fire that 111T up on paraffin or naphtha and its an impressive 10,000BTU stove The Army ones I've had came with the 'M' jet fitted. Optimus themselves say that fitting the 'A' jet will halve boiling times.

 

[Gray]

Brill, cheers Rik,will bring it along anyway. Thanks very much fellas, great advice and much appreciated

 

[widu13]

Just so you can see which jet you have. I suspect burning as it is that you have the multifuel jet which may burn alcohol but not well. Kero's cheap and does well all year round.

 

[Gray]

Just so you can see which jet you have. I suspect burning as it is that you have the multifuel jet which may burn alcohol but not well. Kero's cheap and does well all year round.

Ahhh i see, ok, getting my head around this now. Thanks very much for your help which i value greatly as i do with everyone else.

 

[Gray]

Just tried this with kero, excellent results, what a cracking bit of kit, dont like alcohol though,bit like swmbo

 

[bilmo-p5]

Taking all the pros & cons into consideration, kerosene/paraffin is the best fuel for it.

 

[rik_uk3]

Just tried this with kero, excellent results, what a cracking bit of kit, dont like alcohol though,bit like swmbo

Told ya

 

[Gray]

:yelrotflm

Told ya

you did mate, I think your brilliant, a suprestar, in fact i dont know what id do without you. I dont know how ive managed to get this far.:yelrotflm

 

[charliefoxtrot]

Er.. on the subject of 111 help, I just acquired a centreforge with a 111 burner, and the non-return valve is fubar..

Bilmo, if you're reading this, do you by any chance have a spare rubber 'pip' you can bring to Barbon, I'll pay you obviously.

Its the type of pip that works on its own, not the one with the little brass carrier.

Oh yes, I think the rubber washer on the NRV is toast as well...

Andy