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Sainsbury has banned brown eggs in a bid for net zero.
We are constantly told that shell colour makes no difference. Do hens that lay brown eggs emit more carbon?
Make it Make sense please somebody!
 
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Apparently it's because the chickens that lay white eggs tend to be smaller, so the (strained) argument is that they use less food. So they therefore use less energy...

A more cynical view might be that smaller chickens lay smaller eggs, so there is some cost savings in handling / processing etc.
 
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Apparently it's because the chickens that lay white eggs tend to be smaller, so the (strained) argument is that they use less food. So they therefore use less energy...

A more cynical view might be that smaller chickens lay smaller eggs, so there is some cost savings in handling / processing etc.
But net zero, is about no cost to the environment. Never will this be attained. Everything has a cost.
There will never be a net zero product.
I like brown eggs. I find them more appealing estheticly, even though I'm aware there is no difference in nutrition. I have a friend who untill recently kept several different breeds of chickens , white and brown eggs, even blue ones.
I've just rung her, and asked about the difference in feeding take up...absolutely none, according to her.
As for size, all egg boxes are a standard size, whether you buy small or large eggs. All go through the same packing process...so where exactly are the savings that count towards net zero?
Plus you are getting less egg for your money if it's the size factor, which to be honest I realy can't see at all being a reason.
It doesn't make any sense.
But millions will believe this cow poo, buy them, and think they are being responsible, while having choice and personal preference taken away.. not a peep from them about it.
Not that I ever shop there anyway, but I definatly won't shop for eggs there ever again
I'll stick to my local farm eggs . At least I still have full choice on colour and size.(and they are cheaper,) I can choose exactly which eggs I want. The "hassle" of actualy putting them into a box myself is realy no hardship. I never end up with hidden cracked ones. Who checks each egg in a box? Maybe open and check the tops of the eggs, but does anyone ever inspect each egg completely, as I can? I doubt it.
Maybe Hugh @British Red can tell us what the advantages of only white eggs are regarding net zero.
 
Theoretically smaller white-egg layers are around 12.5% more efficient (according to Sainsburys) - they consume less food and produce less polluting poop.

However, where the chickens are relative to the market (food miles), and how they are kept (free range vs shed layers), has far more effect on the environment I would have thought.
 
Make it Make sense please somebody!
It doesn't make sense. It probably isn't supposed to.

The people who tell us we need to change our diets, drive electric cars and replace ancient farmland with short-lifespan, toxic solar panels because of Net Zero 'reasons' are the same people that fly around in private jets, turn a blind eye to burning oil depots in Russia and are comfortable buying products manufactured in China using electricity produced by coal burning power stations.
 
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Sainsbury has banned brown eggs in a bid for net zero.
No they haven't, they've decided to start using only white eggs in their home brand range.
while having choice and personal preference taken away
Surely by introducing a policy of only selling white eggs in their own brand range (which nobody else is doing as far as I can see) they've added a new option for people who want that. If you don't want to buy white eggs from sainsbury's home brand range then you can buy something else.
Not that I ever shop there anyway, but I definatly won't shop for eggs there ever again
I'll stick to my local farm eggs
Oh, you already do choose to buy eggs that aren't sainsbury's home brand, so this doesn't have any impact on you at all.

Relax, it's just eggs, it'll be ok.
 
The people who tell us we need to change our diets, drive electric cars and replace ancient farmland with short-lifespan, toxic solar panels all because of Net Zero 'reasons' are the same people that fly around in private jets, turn a blind eye to burning oil depots in Russia and are comfortable buying products manufactured in China using electricity produced by coal burning power stations.
I have never flown in a private jet, I'm painfully aware of the burning oil depots in Russia (and all over the middle east), and buying products made in China makes me uncomfortable for all sorts of reasons.

Also; as a species we should change our diets for a multitude of reasons, we should also be trying to reduce emissions from transport as much as we realistically can, and we should try to produce electricity in as an environmentally sympathetic way as we can.

I have no opinion about "net zero", it sounds like propaganda to me.

Ignore "the people" and listen to your own common sense, opposing something just because it's got the "net zero" label attached to it makes as much sense as ignoring the environmental crisis that we're all facing.
 
Surely by introducing a policy of only selling white eggs in their own brand range (which nobody else is doing as far as I can see) they've added a new option for people who want that. If you don't want to buy white eggs from sainsbury's home brand range then you can buy something else.
How is giving only one type of produce, an option?
If they sold both types you would have an option. Having the "choice" of only one type is no choice at all. From what I know, sainsbury home brand is the cheaper end of their products, so it's limiting choice for those who cannot afford a higher quality branding, which incidently, has often been proved to be the same food, canned in the same factory , just with a Less fancy and appetising label.
Just spoken to the local butcher who sells local farm eggs, he burst out laughing and his reply....b******t
His son provides the eggs he sells, both colours.
I did show him the article .
So there you go.
 
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How is giving only one type of produce, an option?
But they're not doing that, have a glance at the sainsbury's website, they sell loads of different kind of eggs.
From what I know, sainsbury home brand is the cheaper end of their products, so it's limiting choice for those who cannot afford a higher quality branding
Their own brand eggs aren't the cheapest eggs that they sell.
Just spoken to the local butcher who sells local farm eggs, he burst out laughing and his reply....b******t
So one business makes negative comments about another business, I fail to see how this proves anything.

For clarity, this doesn't have any impact on me either, I buy eggs from the honesty box in the village, but I appreciate that I'm lucky to have that option.
 
GFSon1 has bought ducks.....well they were ducklings two months ago, they're huge big things now.....and I wondered at the time, just what she was going to do with well over a thousand duck eggs a year.....I'm still wondering :)

On the other hand the ducks are happily rooting around in every plant and happily guzzling every slug and snail they come across....this is Lanarkshire, we're sodden wet, slugs and snails are perennials...except in her garden now....:smuggrin:

I think we need more joined up thinking like that.
 
I loved having ducks, lots of decent big eggs that were delicious, fun to watch, kept the lawn down most of the time and easy to care for. Then my neighbour turned on me and I had to give them up.
Now she feeds loads of wild bloody pigeons, that sit there all day, making noise and pooing on the neighbours cars. So far they know to keep out of my garden but later if I have crops....
 
I loved having ducks, lots of decent big eggs that were delicious, fun to watch, kept the lawn down most of the time and easy to care for. Then my neighbour turned on me and I had to give them up.
Now she feeds loads of wild bloody pigeons, that sit there all day, making noise and pooing on the neighbours cars. So far they know to keep out of my garden but later if I have crops....
Pigeon pie is supposedly very tasty...and free!
 
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But net zero, is about no cost to the environment. Never will this be attained. Everything has a cost.
There will never be a net zero product.
I like brown eggs. I find them more appealing estheticly, even though I'm aware there is no difference in nutrition. I have a friend who untill recently kept several different breeds of chickens , white and brown eggs, even blue ones.
I've just rung her, and asked about the difference in feeding take up...absolutely none, according to her.
As for size, all egg boxes are a standard size, whether you buy small or large eggs. All go through the same packing process...so where exactly are the savings that count towards net zero?
Plus you are getting less egg for your money if it's the size factor, which to be honest I realy can't see at all being a reason.
It doesn't make any sense.
But millions will believe this cow poo, buy them, and think they are being responsible, while having choice and personal preference taken away.. not a peep from them about it.
Not that I ever shop there anyway, but I definatly won't shop for eggs there ever again
I'll stick to my local farm eggs . At least I still have full choice on colour and size.(and they are cheaper,) I can choose exactly which eggs I want. The "hassle" of actualy putting them into a box myself is realy no hardship. I never end up with hidden cracked ones. Who checks each egg in a box? Maybe open and check the tops of the eggs, but does anyone ever inspect each egg completely, as I can? I doubt it.
Maybe Hugh @British Red can tell us what the advantages of only white eggs are regarding net zero.
I buy my eggs from a locals. They have an honeststy box. I would never buy eggs from a big supermarket god only knows where they come from, you get all different sizes and colors. best to buy like that I think. these supermarket chains have too much money and no matter how much they make they want more. x
 
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Even I have been caught out with eggs this month. At the farmers market were some very fresh looking eggs in large trays, at a good price, the odd feather was to be seen and I thought they were nice free range eggs. I asked for half a dozen, expecting to be able to choose my eggs from the trays, but was handed a ready made box of eggs. I wS chatting with my friend and deciding where to go for a cup of tea, and so I just accepted them , payed and put them in my bag. Later at home, I noticed that it said in small print, on the back of the box that they were from hens in cages. Very annoyed.!
I'm not buying them again, and will be demanding next farmers market that there is a sign saying they are cage eggs. I will even take a home made one to display myself if they don't make it clear. Very sneaky!
I only ever buy free range and organic. Left me feeling very duped.
I like good food, and will buy less but pay more for localy produced food of better quality which is what one normaly expects at a farmers market.
 
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I only buy eggs from one or other of three smallholders / farmers in our village. But that gives me access to hens eggs from bantams up to large brown eggs, duck and turkey eggs. All of them freshly laid and cheap compared to the supermarkets. Food miles of between 400 and 1000 yards :) . Long may it continue!
 
Unfortunately the so called farmers markets usually need to have full time marketeers. Or they don't actually grow what they sell, but need the secondary income so buy in goods.
I don't blame any of them, it's desperate times and folk have to do what they can.
 
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Unfortunately the so called farmers markets usually need to have full time marketeers. Or they don't actually grow what they sell, but need the secondary income so buy in goods.
I don't blame any of them, it's desperate times and folk have to do what they can.
But they do need to be open about the practice. A farmers market is for farmers to sell their own products straight to the public. If you are buying in stuff and passing it off as your own product, it's fraudulent.
Not saying the eggs were from cage hens, rather than free range, or what passes for it nowadays, is also wrong.
They were also selling their own honey. I know most localish honey producers and locals would soon pick up on anyone who was "re jaring " anything else.
I will occasionally buy local barn eggs, but I know they have outside access during the day. It's a compromise that is rare in my home, only taken if I'm baking cakes for an event, as they are marginaly cheaper which saves on the costs a bit.
I don't mind paying for the real deal. Honey for instance, I pay £6 from a mate, or up to £8 from a shop for local unprossed honey. I get through a 1lb jar a week, I love the stuff! This chap selling the eggs, was wanting £8 for a half pound jar of honey. Puts a premium label on and charge more. He conned the public with the eggs, by association with the premium honey, only to find they were not premium. I'm annoyed. You can't trust anyone nowadays, that said, I'm an avid supporter of local farm produce over supermarket crap.
 

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