Will they now ban your poodle???

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I agree whole-heartedly with the general sentiment here and love all dogs (cats too). However at the risk of unintentionally sounding callous, I've never heard of an unattended knife leaping out of its drawer and savaging a small child. Most attacks that are heard about do not involve the owner setting the dog on its victim, so it's not quite the same.

As for the thread title, Poodles should be banned, at least Poodle cropping should be!

While most dog attacks are not ordered by the owner, they are caused by the owner failing to train thier dog correctly.
 
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1, the only good animal is in the oven. my father when I asked for a dog.
2, it's a good job he didn't kill them with a cricket bat, then they'd ban cricket. HRH The Duke Of Edinburgh,the only person I know who can offend a whole country in one sentence,he does it all the time ,brilliant
 
Just to clarify where I stand here .. I like dogs, I always have done and always will. Dogs do not like me, and i think I have found out why.
I have a fear of dogs, i'm not just scared of them it is a fear, irrational maybe but I have had many bad experiences with dogs.
I read last night (and didn't bookmark the link and can I find it?) that people that suffer from a panic disorder, which I do, or a mental illness such as depression are more prone to a fear of something, especially dogs. Because of the fear of dogs the dog is more likely to attack or bite as they can sense this fear. Vicious circle or what!

Anyways, To the folks that refuse to keep their dog on a leash .. fair do's but if you cannot keep the dog under close control then it really does need to be on a lead when other people are about because you never know who has a fear of dogs and you never know when you dog may act out of character.

Oh and lovely pics of the dogs, like i said I really do like dogs .. except for the one with the glowing eyes :D
 
I think the fairest solution is to say that dog owners are wholly responsible for the actions of their animals - if the animal attacks a person, the attack should be treated with exactly the same severity as if the owner had conducted it. If the animal kills stock, its the same as if the owner has taken a gun and done it. If the animal kills a person its murder or manslaughter.

That makes all owners responsible owners - in that they will be held responsible. Those with well behaved animals have nothing to fear, but if in doubt, keep it under full control.

For the avoidance of any doubt I love dogs - but I don't see why I should be allowed to be any less responsible in the care I exercise with my dog than I should be for the care I exercise with my rifle, axe or knife. They are all things I have chosen to own and I am wholly responsible for.

Red
 
Very well said ! :approve:
Uncontrolled, i.e. unbidable, dogs, are at best a social nuisance and at worst a vicious threat.........and I like dogs. Used to be a puppy walker for the Guide Dogs for the Blind. We got the pups at six or eight weeks old (dependant on the conditions of the breeding kennels) and were given a very clear set of instructions for training the puppies from infancy. Good behaviour in every social situation was the ultimate aim.
Problem is some people just should not be responsible for a dog ( but then I reckon some folks just ought to do the world a service and not breed, either :rolleyes: )

I would hate to see dogs removed from our lives, or cats for that matter, I don't think we do our children any favours though by either excluding them from contact with dogs or with encouraging them to approach every dog expecting the dog to tolerate their pestering.

Seems to me that both the dogs and people need training.

cheers,
Toddy
 
I think the fairest solution is to say that dog owners are wholly responsible for the actions of their animals - if the animal attacks a person, the attack should be treated with exactly the same severity as if the owner had conducted it. If the animal kills stock, its the same as if the owner has taken a gun and done it. If the animal kills a person its murder or manslaughter.

I agree with you there Red and I'd extend that thinking to parents of under 16's too. Oops, I think I know why cans all have ring-pulls now, can-o'-wurms-in-the-hole!!!!
 
Im not fond of dogs, they are stupid things that when they are not biting or barking at you, are spreading diesease and fawning on you.

There are few areas a dog is actualy useful, Pigs have sharper noses and taste better.

If the government can raise cash by taxing dogs thats fine by me.

Im told they are company, but Ive met very few dogs that were in any way companionable

people have them because they are fashionable, thats all.

Know exactly what you mean there,the dogs that really annoy me are these so called "sniffer" dogs at airports.Running all over your luggage,sticking their dumb noses into your rucksack,and when they find a few pounds of explosive and stop you getting blown to pieces they start jumping around and expect a reward for doing their job!.................

Let me think in what other areas where they are usless,Rescue work,sniffing out buried victims in earthquakes,avalanches,waterborn rescue,locating lost people,security work,tracking,locating explosives,landmines,guiding blind people,helping the disabled,helping the deaf,therapy,some can even detect certain type of disease in the body,sledge dogs,sheep dogs,hunting dogs................yep,pretty usless animal really.
Cant understand at all why they have been a constant companion for man since the stone age??
 
Let me think in what other areas where they are usless,Rescue work,sniffing out buried victims in earthquakes,avalanches,waterborn rescue,locating lost people,security work,tracking,locating explosives,landmines,guiding blind people,helping the disabled,helping the deaf,therapy,some can even detect certain type of disease in the body,sledge dogs,sheep dogs,hunting dogs................yep,pretty usless animal really.
Cant understand at all why they have been a constant companion for man since the stone age??

Beat me to it, well said.
 
Know exactly what you mean there,the dogs that really annoy me are these so called "sniffer" dogs at airports.Running all over your luggage,sticking their dumb noses into your rucksack,and when they find a few pounds of explosive and stop you getting blown to pieces they start jumping around and expect a reward for doing their job!.................

Let me think in what other areas where they are usless,Rescue work,sniffing out buried victims in earthquakes,avalanches,waterborn rescue,locating lost people,security work,tracking,locating explosives,landmines,guiding blind people,helping the disabled,helping the deaf,therapy,some can even detect certain type of disease in the body,sledge dogs,sheep dogs,hunting dogs................yep,pretty usless animal really.
Cant understand at all why they have been a constant companion for man since the stone age??

I believe Tengu's talking about pet dogs and not legitimate working dogs - it is, after all, what this thread is about.
And yes I am a dog person - brilliant creatures.
 
I have a good book on pooches, Ill look it out.

One thing dogs are useful for, is substitute children.
 
Thats because cats don't have owners, cats own humans...

:)

That is the standard answer used by cat owners everywhere but who actually decides to buy the cat? Who pays for the food, vetinary care, etc.? Don't kid yourself, the 'cat owns the human' thing is just a get-out phrase used by cat owners to avoid responsibility for the actions of their pets.
 
That is the standard answer used by cat owners everywhere but who actually decides to buy the cat? Who pays for the food, vetinary care, etc.?

No no, it's true! they use 'mind control' we only think we're making the decisions for ourselves...

;)

Additionally, it isn't just robins and finches that are on the menu, they take care of the pests too.

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Im not fond of dogs, they are stupid things that when they are not biting or barking at you, are spreading diesease and fawning on you.

There are some stupid dogs out there, but that holds true for most animals, people included.

One of the smartest dogs I ever met was a Rhodesian Ridgeback named 'Ronin'.

Ronin would 'guard' the perimeter of his owners house, following passers by on the other side of the hedge, however he never growled or barked and would never cross the garden boundary.

Unless someone attempted to enter the property, which would have the beast in full combat mode, ready to maim or kill! However if the owner invited someone into the property, then Ronin would consider them part of the family and ignore them from then on.

The remarkable thing was, the owners spent every winter in Portugal, traveling there in a mobile home, when they found a place to camp the owner would lay out a tape around the vehicle and Ronin would guard the edge of that tape in exactly the same manner as he guarded the hedge and wall back home, again never crossing the boundary.

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