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Lltfdaniel

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Hi all,

I did a quick search to see if there was any threads like this but did not find any.

I'll start off as this,

My ruck sack is an amazon basics rucksack i think it is 65 litres and i plan to attach two 20 litre dry bags one on each side since i can attach the dry bags on this rucksack as well as attaching 4, 2 litre dry bags on the rucksack as well.

I must admit i am not the best person to getting for instance a sleeping bag to compress to it's smallest size which is why i need the extra storage from the dry bags.

With the extra storage i would use these items below.

Water and food storage as well as tea and coffee and milk below for 1 week.

For storage i will use this below.

Water below.

build life 3.8 litres this is for plain water which will last me up to 2 days from full to empty and or if i can't find any water source while camping, the size of this 3.8 litre water holder/storage is 15.6 cm wide and 28.5 cm high and this will be attached to the bottom of my rucksack where a closed foam cell camping mat would go on you see.

To be used with the 3.8 litre build life bottom when i need to top up with water i will use a -MSR-MiniWorks-EX water filter, the reason why i picked this is because you can pump the water into the 3.8 litre water bottle.

So yea that is my drinking storage and supply.

Also for tea or coffee i would use Dairy-Pride-Skimmed-Longlife milk 2 litres of that in fact for 1 week supply.

I also plan to use 2 of these which are Unisex Outdoor Traveller Bottle 1 litre, so i can store 1 litre of milk because it is convenient to store it like that and also for cooking water, cooking water well i have not got to the food section but i will need water to cook my ration packs you see, so instead of using water in the 3.8 litre water bottle i will simply re use the water from the 1 litre bottle using a funnel transferring the water used to cook the ration pack back into the 1 litre bottle and when i need to re use it i would put that water back into the cooking pot and re use it over and over again while not touching my 3.8 litre water storage so to speak.

Yea i almost forgot this but for the milk and cooking water where i will re use over and over will be two of these > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unisex-Out...uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

Stove and pots and pans and mug, kettle and stove and gas canisters.

I plan to use Coleman-Fyrelite-Start-Backpacking-Silver with Coleman-Performance-Cartridge-Resealable-Canister so the reason why i am going with this is because the gas is amongst the cheapest to buy so i went with this over stoves that heat water to boiling like the Jetboil-Flash where is has among the fastest boil time.

I will be using a camping kettle for boiling water, and camping sauce pan which is 6 cm high and 11.5 cm wide i will cook my ration pack in hot water using the sauce pan and i hope the ration pack would fit anyways i will go on about the ration pack below.

Also i would pack 2 cole man gas canisters in case i run out of gas.

Okay now onto the food ration packs.

I will be using evaq8 or ration x ration packs because they are good value and the cheapest i could find.

Boil in the bag, and eat out of the ration pack which saves the need to clean your cooking gear so yeah, convenient.

This is the ration pack i would use > https://evaq8.co.uk/day-ration-food-pack-m-1.html comes with breakfast and dinner with dessert and for lunch well the snacks in this pack will be the lunch i would have heh.

I would be using a Summit-300ml-Stainless-Steel-Mug for the cup or whatever cup i would use.

Tent

I will be using the Coleman-Coastline-Outdoor-Tunnel because of tent price space and pitches outer fly first then attaching the inner to the fly.

Sleeping bag.

Pack size is important to me so anything below 20x20cm pack size and has to be at least - 5 comfort going down to - 10 or - 12 lower comfort limit.

So the bag is the alp kit pipedream-400 so i will be using that.

Sleeping Mat.

I will be using the Klymit-Insulated-Camping-Sleeping-Flip-Valve 2019 .

Other items,

Toliet roll x 2,
Towel,
Medication,

That is about it and yeah i have 2 x 20 litre dry bags and 4, 2 litre dry bags and 65 litres of internal backspace space.

As well as the straps to attach the dry bags on as well as the 3.8litre water bottle.

So yea i would store my clean clothes in one 2 litre dry bag and dirty cloths in the other 2 litre dry bag.

Also storing 2 1 litre water bottles in one 2 litre dry bag as well.

I don't need a base layer etc as i will be using my normal non camping clothes so to speak and hope that makes sense because to stay warm and dry i will use my jacket which will do the job as well a water proof beanie hat and water proof over trousers and water proof shoes.

Dan.
 

Lltfdaniel

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Also this lantern is hard to beat regarding battery life,

400 hours or 16 days of light at 50 lumens low setting and it will reach 2 meters to light up with, plus you can compact this lantern.

Coleman-Battery-Pack-Away-Electric-Lantern

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Coleman-Ba...n+camping+lantern&psc=1&qid=1571332483&sr=8-2

As for dry bags i have found my ideal item, below with the link.

This https://www.amazon.co.uk/Highlander...rds=highlander+dry+bag&qid=1571327967&sr=8-19 as well as this below.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Highlander...6H046DZ7Q2B&psc=1&refRID=070NYQ2MY6H046DZ7Q2B

Dan.
 

Lltfdaniel

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Right i will post what items i would take with me,

The Backpack i will be using is a AmazonBasics Internal Frame Hiking Backpack with Rainfly, 75 L .

This has to be the best bag i have ever owned it has many straps and hook places to get additional storage or more storage by clipping dry bag and water bottles too.

Also yeah, i will be using 4 x 8 litre dry bags the reason why i got these is for more storage plus how big the dry bags are regarding diameter space and also knowing what size in diameter they are plus they are cheaper these will be attached to the rucksack.

so 4 dry bags for extra storage and 2 more for putting my sleeping bag in as well as tent because i am not the best compacter of equipment like sleeping bags or tents i just want to stuff them in drybags instead.

Also, i will be attaching 2, 1 litre water bottles to the rucksack 1 for cooking and 1 for storing milk for my coffee or tea, on the outside to be frank to save space in my dry bags which will be used for food, so 2 drybag will be mostly my food and water compartment, so my stove gas and anything that is food and drink related goes in there so i will have 16 litres of space for that which is enough for 1 week.

For attaching the water bottles to the rucksack i will be using these > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aluminum-C...t=&hvlocphy=9045708&hvtargid=pla-756405744639

And the water bottles are > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stainless-...tre+water+bottle&psc=1&qid=1571412967&sr=8-50

Edit, i have just found out that the water bottles come with hooks already attached which is handy.

Also i will be using this big 3.8 litre for 1 to 2 days worth of water supply and using the water filter to top it up with water again > https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07GZNDGQR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1&psc=1

I will be planning to use this water purifier to top up my 1 litre water bottle and this 3.8litre do dah with this > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Msr-040818023709-Guardian-Purifier-Grey/dp/B019ERWU66

Also when on the move i will be using a army water bottle because i do not want to pack and un pack when on the move just so i can have a drink.

Okay so 2 dry bags for food milk gas stove rubbish as well as the camping kettle cup and saucepan to cook the ration packs in water.

The milk is this > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dairy-Prid...eywords=long+life+milk&qid=1571312112&sr=8-11

For the milk i will be using 1, 1 litre bottle to store it in for daily use and then when i run out i will use the funnel to top it up with another litre of milk.

I plan to take 2 litres of milk for 1 week supply, as well as 2 gas canisters which i have mentioned in this post below.

I will also be using this which will be handy and can compress down in size > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-Optim...10?keywords=funnel+8cm&qid=1571313049&sr=8-10

The stove i will use is this > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sagafly-Ca...a&pf_rd_r=KT7DPWS7WFDZJ2QQTDE7&qid=1571333615

The gas i will use for the stove is this > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Coleman-C5...dge-Resealable/dp/B01679T6QQ/ref=cts_sp_3_vtp

The cup for coffee and tea and this which is for cooking my ration packs in boiling water > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bcute-Over...242TPSZ98432&refRID=34TDV6XJ242TPSZ98432&th=1

Kettle > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bcute-Over...242TPSZ98432&refRID=34TDV6XJ242TPSZ98432&th=1

1 dry bag for this bad boy for putting this daddy of water filters in which is the MSR Guardian Purifier Grey > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Msr-040818023709-Guardian-Purifier-Grey/dp/B019ERWU66 this is big so it will take up an entire dry bag space.

Also my 4th dry bag will be for things like my lantern and whatever storage i will come up with so yeah.

Anyways i will say this, despite having extra storage which are my dry bags attached to the rucksack, the actual internal storage of my 75litre rucksack will be for storing my sleeping bag, pillow and camping mattress and tent as well as power banks to recharge my phone and clothes and medication.

Okay that is my storage and basically what i will be using them for.

Next is my mobile phone and the reasons why i recommend it which is called the moto g7 power.

This moto g7 power is the smartphone i whole heartily recommend to anyone who is after battery life, this phone has one of the best and i mean the best battery life out of every other smart phone on the planet and cost under £200.

I have posted links below if your interested regarding battery life and also to research about this phone.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/32918818

This phone will last around about 14-15.5 hours on one signal charge from 100% to 15% which means it will last the long none stop with moderate to heavy use and only needs to be charged once a day.

Or if you never use the smart phone your looking at 3 to 5 days easy on one single charge.

Also having a mobile phone/smart phone with you while you camp, you can watch live tv or movies or surf the internet or listen to youtube for music or just for mobile phone calls.

So yeah i would recommend a mobile phone network that offers unlimited calls data and text so yea some networks like virgin media mobile, ee, three and o2 or smarty links below.

Just look up unlimited data on google, the advantage of having unlimited data is for non stop use of data while you camp.

So for me my mobile phone is my entertainment centre while i camp.

So yeah i will be using power banks like this to keep the phones recharged > https://www.amazon.co.uk/portable-phone-charger/s?k=portable+phone+charger&rh=p_89:RAVPower,ssx:relevance&hsa_cr_id=8036586770702&lp_asins=B076F1YR9Y,B076KS92ZT&lp_mat_key=ravpower&lp_query=battery+ravpower&lp_slot=auto-sparkle-hsa-tetris&pf_rd_p=61123ba5-9314-4baa-bd6e-caa510bc4e08&sb-ci-n=headline&sb-ci-v=Huge+capacity+with+100%+faster+charge+and+recharge&store_ref=SB_A0336422U1P5FEEY2DZX

Next is my outdoor weather gear.

I will not be using what people do is using a base layer and mid layer and then the waterproof windproof gear.

For me i will be storing 2 sets of pants (underwear if your american) trousers (pants if your american) and tops, so yeah i will get changed every 3 days and 6th day of the week so i do not smell of sweat or body odour.

So yea i will be wearing this > https://www.carinthia.eu/bags/en/shop/Trousers-Jacket/G-Loft+Reversible+Jacket/?card=1225&list=1 which is the catherina G-LOFT REVERSIBLE JACKET and https://www.carinthia.eu/bags/en/shop/Trousers-Jacket/G-Loft+Reversible+Trousers/?card=1226&list=1 carinthia G-Loft+Reversible+Trouser.

I will be using the trousers as a waterproof over trouser you see.

Since my jacket does not have a hood to keep my head dry i am considering using this > https://www.function18.com/galvin-green-arctic-gore-tex-waterproof-hat-black.html .

I will do more posts but yeah.

Dan.
 
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Janne

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Lltfdaniel, Is that for a stroll in the park or for a two weeker in the Scandinavian mountains?

Imho the requirement for equipment varies hugely, depending to what the occasion is planned.

(As a note, a backpack with two 20 liters bladders on the side is suitable where the vegetation has plenty of spaces between them.
Scandi birch forest outside a track = you get stuck after 3 meters. Why not get a bigger, maybe 100 -120 liter, backpack straight away?)
 

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The only place where I sometimes store an additional dry bag is under the main flap of my rucksack or on top of it.

And I exclusively store Sleeping bag in Bivvy bag in it, nothing else.

My rucksacks are constructed to do this, but I try to avoid it if possible.

The fabric of my rucksack is far stronger than my dry bags, which I mainly bought for inner organisation of the rucksack and to seal my stuff a second time.
 

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Living next door to wilderness, about all I've done for decades is day trips.
Nevertheless, what I take certainly depends on where I'm going and what I'm doing.

A box with enough supplies for a comfortable night out if the truck breaks down.
It lives inside my front door until the end of the bird hunting season (November 15, if we aren't snowed in by then.).
Complete change of clothes if I get wet. Just a little insurance that I have not needed so far.

Hot or cold foods to last in snacking mode all day long. Some sort of a stove for a boil.
Always far more spare fuel than I can imagine using.
Whatever tools and toys to keep me occupied for the day.
 

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I'm actually wondering how you will carry all this. Then tent alone weighs nearly as much as I carry in my whole pack for a weekend. How long do you plan to stay? When are you going? Are you planning to stay in one place or move around? You say you plan to go to Scottish wilderness so will you be wild camping or set yourself up on a camp site?
Do you have first aid knowledge and you make no mention of a first aid kit. Essential if you are going to be in the wilderness.
 

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I would be laughed at with how much i will be taking, i can carry up to 25kg and i hope my big 3.8 l water bottle will stay in place hoping the rucksack straps can take the weight, if not then i will hook it up to my rucksack.

As well as 3 1 litre water bottles for cooking water to be reused over and over without touching my 3.8l drinking water as well as 2 more of 1 litre water bottles for milk because off the top of my head i need the extra space so i will be attaching 3 1 litre bottles to the outside of my backpack.

Anywhere in the Scottish highlands, i will be moving around, i plan to stay up to 1 week varingly

As for medication yes i did not mention what type of medication but medication for my mental health you see as i have to take tablets.

Here is a picture of my backpack, as you can see it has alot of straps hah

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As for the tent as i need it for small pack size so i have considered this > https://www.winfieldsoutdoors.co.uk...t08_VIiQG96EF5ikBoCTGMQAvD_BwE#paylaterReveal
 

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25 kilos is an extremely heavy pack. trygoing for a long walk with all your kit before you set off. Have a couple of practice weekends before you set off on this adventure nearer to home where you can test out all your kit and it's easy to get home if things go wrong. You may find you need something you have not thought of or don't need something you thought essential.
Do you have wilderness living skills? It's quite different to being on a campsite with toilets and shops nearby. I'd suggest that you try a bushcrafting course to get the skills you might find usefull if you don't already have them. Scotland is a wild place and also don't forget map and compass. Can you use them confidently? That will be an essential skill. It's easy to get lost up there!
 
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This is why i signed up to this forum, to gain experience from fellow packers like your self also learning what the superior equipment to use which varys as to what you want, weight or pack size for one.

This is going to sound silly but i thought about it but using the mobile smartphone using google maps on it, and it has a GPS position on the phone so as an alternative i would use that over a map.

So yea i will have to buy a compass but also using gps on the phone so that is how i would go about it.

I have no bushcraft skills, anyways i have highly considered this as a first run and to meet people and gain experiance > https://bushcraftuk.com/community/index.php?threads/winter-moot-2020-17-23rd-feb.153394/

I have tried one smartphone compass app and said i did not have magnetic do dah which is what all compass uses so yeah.

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I will just have to buy a compass to go along with my gps navigation on the phone.

Dan.
 
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Ah I thought that might be your plan to use GPS on your phone. You should not rely on it. Many who do thinking it will work perfectly find themselves lost and in need of mountain rescue. Many places do not have phone coverage up there so you will not even be able to call for help. Please think about this trip seriously. It's not a beginners environment.
You need to learn how to use a map and compass confidently as a priority. This is serious advice.
I see you live in Bournemouth so you have the new forest to practice your walking and camping skills in, though it is a totaly different environment to what you plan.
Walking with a 25kg pack on relatively level land is no training for the moor bog and mountain environment of Scotland.
Get local experience first and don't try to run before you can walk.
As you are a beginner in this world of bushcraft. You have lots to learn... in fact you never stop learning. There is a bushcraft school near you so book a course and get some experience. I don't normaly recommend bushcraft schools but they have their place for those who want to learn quickly. Expert advice and tuition is never a waste of time or money.
 
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If I read you correctly you have no ( zero) experience?
If that is the case, I would recommend that you start learning close to home, weekends.
Try to find somebody that has more experience, it is quicker and smoother than way.
In the beginning you will think you need more stuff than you actually have to have, which is bulky and heavy.
Short treks will teach you well, and build up those unused muscles.
Also short local treks will show you what equipment is ok for you and which you need to replace.

There are many facets to spending time outdoors ( whatever you call it), my way is not the next persons way. But they both might work, or each will work in different surroundings.

Two advice: get a bigger, well fitting backpack, of the best possible quality. Will last you for decades
Learn how to use a map and compass. Even if you primarily want to use electronics, they do not like water, do not drop well and the battery can get discharged much quicker than you expect.

My last additional advice is, you need to start a thread about knives!
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Back to your initial query:
My summer, week trek list:
Outer part of my 2 man tent
Cellfoam underlay
Summer sleeping bag
Trangia ( Jägar köket)
Knife, plus spare folder (Victorinox)
One liter of fuel
Freeze dried food,
sugar, pepper, salt ( sachets liberated from restaurants and cafes)
Coffee, tea,
Sweets/chocolate
Toilet paper 2 rolls
Water bottle
Box of storm matches, 2 BIC lighters

One spare shirt.
Two spare of: socks, underwear, T-shirt’s,
Jumper, beanie.

Plasters, own meds
Soap
Water purification tablets
Mozzi oil
Fishing gear.

Map, compass, money, credit cards

Everything inside backpack except the rod and knife.
Backpack lined with heavy duty bin liner, everything backed in plastic bags.
One large heavy duty bin liner rolled up, ready to be cut for a ‘rain poncho.”

Learn how to pack properly. Heavy stuff high and close to your body. Light stuff at the bottom and away from your body.

Also, do a First Aid course. Practice on yourself.

My two pennies. Remember, 10 people will have 10 lists, and might, (maybe) after 30 pages of discussion, agree on an 11th, but one nobody will personally use!
 
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Back to your initial query:
My summer, week trek list:
Outer part of my 2 man tent
Cellfoam underlay
Summer sleeping bag
Trangia ( Jägar köket)
Knife, plus spare folder (Victorinox)
One liter of fuel
Freeze dried food,
sugar, pepper, salt ( sachets liberated from restaurants and cafes)
Coffee, tea,
Sweets/chocolate
Toilet paper 2 rolls
Water bottle
Box of storm matches, 2 BIC lighters

One spare shirt.
Two spare of: socks, underwear, T-shirt’s,
Jumper, beanie.

Plasters, own meds
Soap
Water purification tablets
Mozzi oil
Fishing gear.

Map, compass, money, credit cards

Everything inside backpack except the rod and knife.
Backpack lined with heavy duty bin liner, everything backed in plastic bags.
One large heavy duty bin liner rolled up, ready to be cut for a ‘rain poncho.”

Learn how to pack properly. Heavy stuff high and close to your body. Light stuff at the bottom and away from your body.

Also, do a First Aid course. Practice on yourself.

My two pennies. Remember, 10 people will have 10 lists, and might, (maybe) after 30 pages of discussion, agree on an 11th, but one nobody will personally use!

I appreciate what you use so yeah, i do agree with what you say about 10 people and 10 lists and 30 page of discussion for one thing for sure is that i definitely will be buying and using these 3 items because of it's much smaller pack size below and have said in another post in this thread but will link them again.

https://www.kampa.co.uk/accessory/collapsible-12l-kettle-grey

https://www.kampa.co.uk/accessory/folding-saucepan-1l-blue

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stainless-...37Y4T5AR39T&psc=1&refRID=YHSQ5B36Z37Y4T5AR39T

I will look into freeze dried food but these 3 items are a must have because of pack size, i would pack them vertically not horizontally

So quite alot of space has been saved unlike other gear that does not compact in size.

Dan.
 

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Fill up all your liquid bottles with water... and weight them. You will get a shock how much it all weighs. Add that to your packweight and go for a five miles hike. ... then imagine trying that in rough boggy hilly country. Just because you can carry 25kg doesn't mean you should. You will tire very quickly and when you are tired and exhausted that is when you will make mistakes that could be life threatening or even fatal. Not trying to put you off but it's a very real possibility for someone such as yourself. I'd get your packweight down to no more than 10 kilos if you can. Ditch that heavy tent and go for a lightweight backpacking one and add a lightweight tarp to give more dry space for cooking etc.
The first aid advice is important too. Do you know how to deal with a broken ankle or arm. Hypothermia deep cuts that are bleeding profusely ? Get basic training. At bushcraft gatherings people are wearing a small first aid pouch on their belts most of the time . Especially when using sharp knives... bad cuts happen to the best of us every so often !
 
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Hi Dan, so you wish to test yourself. We have all been there, ill prepared, overloaded in the middle nowhere and questioning our sanity.

Kampa collapsible cookware/kettle - NO, just no seriously.
They occupy the same volume of space inside your pack whether they are up or down (Archimedes 101)
Get some ordinary camp pots or a billy can, way lighter and will last you longer. Same for the collapsible stirrup cup, novelty value only they leak like sieves and barely hold an espresso.

Food: seek out the Paul Kirtley blog post for "a weeks food in a side pod" if you crave a varied diet. Otherwise Magi noodles, packet-soup & shortbread will keep the calorie count up and the weight down.
Nido milk powder - full fat, less space, less weight than UHT

First Aid: There is no such thing as a minor accident!
  • Blistered foot - Half's the distance you can cover in a day
  • Twisted ankle or strained knee ligaments - Get comfy as you are going nowhere for a couple of days (even with painkillers & strapping)
  • Botched water crossing - Cellphone toasted, flashlight fried?, jacket soaked, injured wrist
 
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