Thankyou all who've responded - I'm learning a lot from this! I went and bought fabric shears today and have begun to search for the ham.......I'm gonna have to make a sleeveboard........I think a lot of people will need some time to gather all this stuff together...........and then where to put it all.............so many projects on the go..........I'm off to try and learn something about dyeing in a natural and affordable way! atb mac