What's your preferred shelter when camping?
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I'm a tenty sort of bloke really, but I am interested in this tarp stuff. But, why a bivvy and tarp? Just a tarp and GS, surely?
From what I've seen on here it's usually a bivvy and tarp combo for a lot of folk.
Tarp and GS would go under Other
Hammock and tarp, but recently used a tent and loved it. All depends where Im going and how far I need to carry stuff in, I do sometimes take a fishing bed chair in too and use it with a tarp.
When I get a hammock it'll be hammock and tarp.... Until then, bivi and tarp. (OR is it hammock, bivi and tarp all in one??? )
Martin
(OR is it hammock, bivi and tarp all in one??? )Martin
widu13
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Walking: Tent; lighter than tarp and hammock, better weather protection, quicker to set up.
Bushcraft meet by myself: T&H
Bushcraft meet with the brats: Tent
Wilding: Tent
Stealth bushcraft: Basha, sometimes with a bivi bag, often without.
Bushcraft meet by myself: T&H
Bushcraft meet with the brats: Tent
Wilding: Tent
Stealth bushcraft: Basha, sometimes with a bivi bag, often without.
I use the bivvy & tarp setup and regard the bivvy as effectively an inner tent for a tarp. The tarp provides overall shelter and the bivvy deals with the condensation which is often a feature of tarp rigs without a through draught. I also move about a bit whilst asleep and sometimes end up outside the tarp umbrella. Without a bivvy (bag) this can result in a wet sleeping bag.
forestwalker
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
It really depends. For "summer" (May-September here) overnights the hammock is quick, easy and very comfortable. If I have the time (and permission) a natural shelter just has a better "feel". Then it is generally some sort of debris hut or leanto with a log fire. If it is late fall or winter I like the tarp setups, except for open and windy country when a tent is the most sensible choice. And in true winter, in particular cold winter a heated tent is the best choice. Long term? Yurt or tipi/lavu with stove.
So I put natural, since that is what I *prefer*, even if a solid stretch of 63 nights in the hammock is comming to an end on Sunday morning (sob).
So I put natural, since that is what I *prefer*, even if a solid stretch of 63 nights in the hammock is comming to an end on Sunday morning (sob).
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Im a stomach/side sleeper. I use an Exped Comfort pillow, and a thermarest, or Exped UL, in a tent, hilleberg, or, more recently a lightweight custom bivy, extra wide at the shoulders, with tarp, which I much prefer to a constricted bivy. Im a sprawler, arms and legs, and need the space. I only zip up fully in the bag when I wake up cold, and never sleep well the first night out.
I'd love to get comfy in a hammock, but have only used the group buy ones, and can never lie comfortably, diagonally flat in it. Dont like sleeping on my back, and on my side, feels like im wrapped in clingfilm.
** also not a fan of mummy shaped liners. Prefer the square foot, like the DD, which i use upside down, so the bit where you slip your pillow in, which is supposed to be under you, is pulled up over me like a cover.
Im a fussy Tw@t and value the comfort.
I'd love to get comfy in a hammock, but have only used the group buy ones, and can never lie comfortably, diagonally flat in it. Dont like sleeping on my back, and on my side, feels like im wrapped in clingfilm.
** also not a fan of mummy shaped liners. Prefer the square foot, like the DD, which i use upside down, so the bit where you slip your pillow in, which is supposed to be under you, is pulled up over me like a cover.
Im a fussy Tw@t and value the comfort.
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Now that's quite interesting, Ian. Depending on air temperature and RH it's possible(often) to get condensation on the outside of your bag anyway. Many, apparantly breathable, bivvies can't shift the moisture either and still generate condensation (inside) from a hot body on a cold, damp, night. I do use a bivvy, but as protection from my dogs so they don't get cack all over my bag
. I had some mesh panels cut and stitched into one bivvi so that it could breath. Now I use a flimsy (but ultralight) pertex bivvi bag - it keeps the worst off my bag and breathes so much better than GoreTex or eVent.
Aye probably, I know how to build a debris shelter, but given the choice I'd rather sleep under silnylon than like a hedgehog.
TurboGirl
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
I should try bivvying but my old bones are begging me to carry on hammocking... what an utter wuss
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