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yep a new cybercrafter term!!!! but sheep are sheep no matter how much you fleece them.
fools and their money LOL
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fools and their money LOL
:tapedshut Ventile Poncho
- Thread starter littlebiglane
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Okay, okay. You've made your point. Albeit a little bit personally. But you have made your point.
I use ventile a bit - often in moderate, sometimes heavy rain on Dartmoor. It has served me well - it does have its drawbacks as does laminates. I am sure we all know the pros and cons of each. I have some friends that absolutely swear by the material and have no problem justifying the investment. I count some experienced backwoodsmen and bushcraft/survival instructors amongst them. I also have at least one person I know who heads up a bushcraft school that is quite critical of ventile and would also say that, as a poncho/shelter it is as useful as a chocolate fireguard. So - we all know that the jury is split on the matter.
I am also a long term user of ponchos and find them a very useful bit of kit - as a raincoat, a rucksack cover, a shelter. Whilst high winds and heavy rain sometimes presents problems on the move its around camp that I find ponchos very useful. One of the only drawbacks has been getting too near the fire!
So - maybe call it an overindulgent experiment, naive curosity, inspired idealism or a bunch of bull. But I am sure that we will get good honest feedback from users of the product. I for one feel confident that - used within its limitations - it will serve me well and will last me many, many years - especially around the sparks and heat of the campfire
Oh, yes. Thanks for your comments too.
LBL
I use ventile a bit - often in moderate, sometimes heavy rain on Dartmoor. It has served me well - it does have its drawbacks as does laminates. I am sure we all know the pros and cons of each. I have some friends that absolutely swear by the material and have no problem justifying the investment. I count some experienced backwoodsmen and bushcraft/survival instructors amongst them. I also have at least one person I know who heads up a bushcraft school that is quite critical of ventile and would also say that, as a poncho/shelter it is as useful as a chocolate fireguard. So - we all know that the jury is split on the matter.
I am also a long term user of ponchos and find them a very useful bit of kit - as a raincoat, a rucksack cover, a shelter. Whilst high winds and heavy rain sometimes presents problems on the move its around camp that I find ponchos very useful. One of the only drawbacks has been getting too near the fire!
So - maybe call it an overindulgent experiment, naive curosity, inspired idealism or a bunch of bull. But I am sure that we will get good honest feedback from users of the product. I for one feel confident that - used within its limitations - it will serve me well and will last me many, many years - especially around the sparks and heat of the campfire
Oh, yes. Thanks for your comments too.
LBL
According to Dave at Hilltrek they should, give or take, start be being sent out today through early next week. Please post if and when you get 'em.
LBL
LBL
Shambling Shaman
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
I quite fancy one myself but being a bit wary of something brand new I'll wait until the feedback comes in.
Mark I admire you for doing this but I admire you more for your cool and calm responses to some posts.
I'd have been banned by now.
Mark I admire you for doing this but I admire you more for your cool and calm responses to some posts.
I'd have been banned by now.
In the interests of fairness, I have been rethinking some of my criticisms. You should also remember that I am based in Scotland, where we typically have 90 to 130 nights of ground frost each year.
For spring/summer use it could be a pretty good deal. When its warm and wet, breathable is great, and a ventile poncho would be very breathable. Also ventile is fairly hardwearing, and when it does wear it is usually at the cuffs of a jacket. Ponchos don't have cuffs.
Ventile is not as quiet as modern peached fabrics, but it is certainly quieter than the pu nylon other ponchos are made from.
For spring summer trips, when you plan to have a fire, and sleep under it, and use it as a waterproof, and want it to be quiet, it may work pretty well. It might also be good for dry cold snow conditions. I'm not sure about it in freezing heavy rain though.
Looking forward to the user reports.
For spring/summer use it could be a pretty good deal. When its warm and wet, breathable is great, and a ventile poncho would be very breathable. Also ventile is fairly hardwearing, and when it does wear it is usually at the cuffs of a jacket. Ponchos don't have cuffs.
Ventile is not as quiet as modern peached fabrics, but it is certainly quieter than the pu nylon other ponchos are made from.
For spring summer trips, when you plan to have a fire, and sleep under it, and use it as a waterproof, and want it to be quiet, it may work pretty well. It might also be good for dry cold snow conditions. I'm not sure about it in freezing heavy rain though.
Looking forward to the user reports.
Shambling Shaman
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Ok mine turned up today, but as it a birthday pezie and addressed to SWMBO I have not see it, How ever surprised at how light it is was expecting it to be heaver.
Will watch for other feedback, as I will not have mine till March 1st
was expecting it to be heaver. Will watch for other feedback, as I will not have mine till March 1st
Ok mine turned up today, but as it a birthday pezie and addressed to SWMBO I have not see it, How ever surprised at how light it is
Will watch for other feedback, as I will not have mine till March 1st
What! A month? Negotiate! Bribe! Blackmail! Anything!
Shambling Shaman
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Well like a naughty child before Christmas I might try to open the packet try it on and repack it
Nooooo... open the packet.... remove poncho.....replace with something else in a similar size / colour .... keep ponchoWell like a naughty child before Christmas I might try to open the packet try it on and repack it
Shambling Shaman
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Shambling Shaman
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Yes very light, PHOTOS please
and if you could sleep under it tomorrow night a write up a full review the would be handy.............
Hi - it should weigh around 800gms if I recall....Sort of same weight as a Brit issue bivvy bag...
Well............................... I've opened it and worn it, unfortunately only in the living room as both my girls decided to be ill this weekend!
However I will say it is a good size, well made and surprisingly light for the amount of material. I can't wait to get it outside especially if this snow keeps up! I won't be sleeping under it any time soon though, too much on at work where I've just changed roles! I'll try to post pics and other details as and when I can.
However I will say it is a good size, well made and surprisingly light for the amount of material. I can't wait to get it outside especially if this snow keeps up! I won't be sleeping under it any time soon though, too much on at work where I've just changed roles! I'll try to post pics and other details as and when I can.
