Hunting knife used as bushcraft knife?

[santaman2000]

........My favorite knife EVER !, was a "Taylors eye witness" 12" steak knife.....

I'm not sure we're both using the same terminology here. Over here a "steak knife" has a small blade (about 4 inch) and is used to eat a steak rather than prep it and they're usually sold in matching sets of from 4 to 8 for the table:


Hence my usual comments about the common bushcraft knife looking and feeling like a steak knife.

 

[Firebow Swagger]

Thats not a steak knife this is a Steak knife http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/bgmqf.ykspv/v/vspfiles/photos/8044-2.jpg?1345011402

Im not saying a 12" knife is any good for Bushcraft , I just like the brand, and am happy they do pocket knives.

 

[santaman2000]

.......(I've no idea who mors is..)......

Mors Kachanski is a Canadian (the son of Polish immigrants) who is an internationally recognized outdoorsman. As I said, he's not one of my role models as such, but I do have great respect for him. www.independent-adventurers.com/mors/index.html

 

[santaman2000]

Thats not a steak knife this is a Steak knife http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/bgmqf.ykspv/v/vspfiles/photos/8044-2.jpg?1345011402.....

LOL. Yep we're on different pages. To me a steak knife is for eating steaks at the table whereas that one is for making steaks from primal cuts.

 

[Samon]

*hauls more fuel for the fire*

Now! kitchen knives in the field are a different matter! lol

(As an example of the use and evolution of this look at the early days of the new world. Many adventurers took kitchen knives (think 'trade' knives) out with them to hunt and explore the wilds. Something that worked well enough for those boys who really were faced with survival situations aswell as having to live in the rough to earn a keep from furrs.

Soonish came designs like the famous bowie knife that took these men from just grabbing a big knife off the butchers' rack to actually having input into what they wanted. Albeit the bowie serves as a rather infamous weapon! lol but it would also serve well as that improvised tool for most stuff big or small, but mostly big. And as The early days of America were BIG it's fair to say they probably had a good tool for their needs.)

I've heard several stories of guys taking kitchen knives out with them, to try and reinact the trade style feeling? I don't know, but apparantly some work well. The one I'm refering to is the Old Hickory brand and specifically the butcher blade. Very simular in appearence to a 'trade' knife and made of very simple materials and in a very simple design too.

I even got one for myself! http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113797&highlight=

I like to back my in your face opinion with atleast a little experience so I had intentions of 'trade-i-fying'? this one up a little, and giving it a run down in the muck, just I like I have with my many other knives.

 

[santaman2000]

Samon what's your budget? If you're dissatisfied with the Buck, you might try the Puma General lockblade. It ain't cheap though (one of the advantages of the Buck)

www.pumaknifecompanyusa.com/General-P179.aspx

 

[Firebow Swagger]

OOOOH SHINY... *Add to Basket*

Why do I listen to you Samon it always costs me money

 

[Samon]

Samon what's your budget? If you're dissatisfied with the Buck, you might try the Puma General lockblade. It ain't cheap though (one of the advantages of the Buck)

www.pumaknifecompanyusa.com/General-P179.aspx

Looks nice, but for over 100 bucks I'd rather decent steel.. lol

Now I have a rather somewhat engrained dislike for lock knives. But! the Cold steel mackinac will be the one I would buy should I look for one. It offers that hunter style, but with solid well made quality (and hilarious advertising). http://www.coldsteel-uk.com/store/mackinac-hunter.html

For the £70 though.. I'd rather a bag of opinels!

And to be honest, I have such little need for a hunting knife, the last thing I skinned was a pile of rats.. and I did that with my spyderco ukpk lol!

OOOOH SHINY... *Add to Basket*

Why do I listen to you Samon it always costs me money

You know you need it. You will cleanse your soul with another purchase, trust me

 

[demographic]

Take a look at what other native cultures can manage with very primitive tools before saying you can't manage with something far more forgiving...

 

[santaman2000]

....Now I have a rather somewhat engrained dislike for lock knives. But! the Cold steel mackinac will be the one I would buy should I look for one. It offers that hunter style, but with solid well made quality (and hilarious advertising). http://www.coldsteel-uk.com/store/mackinac-hunter.html

For the £70 though.. I'd rather a bag of opinels!.....

Nice looking knives. But the price is still a bit steep in comparison to the Buck (under $33 on Amazon or about 26 pounds) I like Case too but TBH Buck's price keeps them more competitive.

 

[santaman2000]

Take a look at what other native cultures can manage with very primitive tools before saying you can't manage with something far more forgiving...

Many native cultures in South America manage with little more than a loincloth and a stone aged blowgun. Doesn't mean I could (or would want to) duplicate it.

 

[Samon]

Take a look at what other native cultures can manage with very primitive tools before saying you can't manage with something far more forgiving...

I don't for one second beleive I can't manage with something less 'tailored to my tastes'. I do however accept there are better options for me (an adult living in a wealthy nation with plenty to choose from!), and even though I'm far from well off or greedy for that matter, I can currently set aside a few quid for something a little closer to my wants. After all, if it were about needs I wouldn't need to buy another knife again as I have more than enough that are perfectly servicable. But as our hobby happens to sometimes include the odd toy, we do get that luxury of being a little picky.

And it's that pickyness that has lead to the facinating evolution of our tools and toys. Something I'm grateful for!

 

[santaman2000]

.......Lol you shoot down mistletoe..? 'MERICA! ......

It's 20 to 30 feet up. I'm not climbing that far for it and throwing a stick only brings down sprigs. A couple of shots from a 12 gauge loaded with #7 & 1/2 shot (at 60 cents each that's a total of $1.20) brings down the whole clump; enough to fill a sack and use in six or seven houses. Why wouldn't I shoot it?

 

[santaman2000]

I don't for one second beleive I can't manage with something less 'tailored to my tastes'. I do however accept there are better options for me (an adult living in a wealthy nation with plenty to choose from!), and even though I'm far from well off or greedy for that matter, I can currently set aside a few quid for something a little closer to my wants. After all, if it were about needs I wouldn't need to buy another knife again as I have more than enough that are perfectly servicable. But as our hobby happens to sometimes include the odd toy, we do get that luxury of being a little picky.

And it's that pickyness that has lead to the facinating evolution of our tools and toys. Something I'm grateful for!

And when we get down to it you're right. Bushcrafting itself is just a hobby that we really don't need to do. But I ain't quitting it.

 

[Samon]

Nice looking knives. But the price is still a bit steep in comparison to the Buck (under $33 on Amazon or about 26 pounds) I like Case too but TBH Buck's price keeps them more competitive.

Ah! but over here I paid £50 for the Buck 110. Ordering one from america directly isn't worth it. That $33 (£20 actually! )will soon add up with all the robbery at customs, taxes and postage. It's an economical option for you guys not us. And the knife just is not worth more than $30 of anyones money, not since the quality has sunk so low.

The cs mac however is only £20 more for us and is infinately more superior. I'd love a play with one, but paying £70 for a knife i will barely use isn;t worth it. And that fact it's probably $50 for you guys just pee's me off big time. Lol

 

[santaman2000]

....The cs mac however is only £20 more for us and is infinately more superior. I'd love a play with one, but paying £70 for a knife i will barely use isn;t worth it. And that fact it's probably $50 for you guys just pee's me off big time. Lol

Just looked it up on Amazon and it's $46,18 with free shipping over here

 

[Samon]

...£28.

Lol, good job my best friend is an american! gotta wire that boy some cash so he can send some my way.. gah.

 

[British Red]

I;ve always had a soft spot for the Puma 953 folder


Puma 953 Main blade by British Red, on Flickr

Great solid main blade and one of the best second blades around


Puma 953 saw by British Red, on Flickr

I like antler handles too

 

[Clouston98]

I like that knife! I like antler handles too ,

 

[Jared]

*hauls more fuel for the fire*

Now! kitchen knives in the field are a different matter! lol

(As an example of the use and evolution of this look at the early days of the new world. Many adventurers took kitchen knives (think 'trade' knives) out with them to hunt and explore the wilds. Something that worked well enough for those boys who really were faced with survival situations aswell as having to live in the rough to earn a keep from furrs.

Soonish came designs like the famous bowie knife that took these men from just grabbing a big knife off the butchers' rack to actually having input into what they wanted. Albeit the bowie serves as a rather infamous weapon! lol but it would also serve well as that improvised tool for most stuff big or small, but mostly big. And as The early days of America were BIG it's fair to say they probably had a good tool for their needs.)

I've heard several stories of guys taking kitchen knives out with them, to try and reinact the trade style feeling? I don't know, but apparantly some work well. The one I'm refering to is the Old Hickory brand and specifically the butcher blade. Very simular in appearence to a 'trade' knife and made of very simple materials and in a very simple design too.

I even got one for myself! http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113797&highlight=

I like to back my in your face opinion with atleast a little experience so I had intentions of 'trade-i-fying'? this one up a little, and giving it a run down in the muck, just I like I have with my many other knives.

Still can get John Nowil (est 1700) marked butcher and scalping knives.

http://www.sheffieldknives.co.uk/acatalog/Miscellaneous-Knives---Scrapers.html