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tommy the cat

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Feb 6, 2007
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Well I know its prob beeeen posted a zillion times but I can't find it:rolleyes: where can I get a c shaped firestriker?
Pmed people on here but to no avail.
Ta Dave
 

wildrover

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Sep 1, 2005
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Jason doesn't have his forge up and running at the mo.
I've already asked:(
Dave Budd does some lovely stuff.
And theres also woodlore
 

Mike Ameling

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If you do a search for "flint striker" over on evil-bay, there usually are a half dozen or so listed at any one time. Prices vary, quality may or may not.

Some US suppliers to check would be Track of the Wolf, Dixie Gun Works, Crazy Crow, Avalon Forge, Bradley Company of the Fox, and any number of smaller companies/suppliers. They all have web sites.

A web search for Flint Striker should also bring up several options.

And I've also been known to make a few C shaped flint strikers - but they amount to less than 10% of the many styles of flint strikers that I make.

The C shape is something of a universal style. It shows up historically from very early Roman times on up to present times. There are many minor variations in it, with various cultures having preferences. Large, small, thin, thick, rounded, squared, with little curls on each end, one end, or neither end. With the ends barely curved up on to curved/bent back so that the ends touch. All just little ... variations ... in the same basic C shape flint striker.

Most any blacksmith can make one, but some are better at the heat-treating than others. If you search for the British Blacksmith Association, you should be able to find a few blacksmiths near you.

Good luck on your search.

Mike - yee ol' grumpy German blacksmith out in the Hinterlands

p.s. My web site has a bunch of information and pictures on it - all associated with flint strikers.

Fire From Steel
 

John Fenna

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Oct 7, 2006
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Do you realy need a C shaped one?
I get supurb sparks from a section of OLD file and the amount of time I have it in hand does not allow any discomfort from using a pinch grip to register!
Historically proven as a common form of fire steel, from archiological sites etc, the OLD busted file is cheap - my file cost £1 from a junk stall and gave me 3 firesteels - and very effective!
Simply take the file, grind the edges smooth (do not overheat it or you will lose the temper of the steel - do it bare handed and if the steel gets warm rest for a moment) grind in a couple of grooves where you want it to break (still keep it cool) then put it in a vice with the grooves close to the vice and the long part of the file hanging down.
Put on goggles or drape the file in a cloth (to stop any flying shards hurting you) and wack the b*gger with a big hammer!
It should break at the ground in groove. I am going to enjoy typing the next bit as it is a popular and oft derided saying: IF AT FIRST YOU DONT SUCCEED - GET A BIGGER HAMMER! Yeah that felt good...
If that don't work hit it again....
Once you have several pieces of file grind any rough edges smoothe - keeping it cool still - and Robert is your fathers sisters husband!
Put each firesteel in a hand crafted Welsh Bushcrafter recycled leather pouch (sizes one or two are ideal) with a couple of flint flakes, a couple of pieces of charcloth or amadou and a couple of slices of Birch Polypore fungus and you will have fire wherever you go.
Actually you could keep the charcloth and fungus in a separate pouch and carry the two pouches in a size three if you want to look neat and clean and avoid any accidental lighting of the charcloth.
Once completed keep 2 of the sets for yourself and flog the other for a small sum and you have your firesteels and a small profit......
If you have no access to a grinder drop me a line - I may have a bit of file going spare, or a full kit..... or you could go and buy a fancy C-shaped one from a specialist supplier, I think the woodlore site has some......
John
 

SimonM

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Apr 7, 2007
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Tamarack have them in stock £20 (No connection etc)

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Follow the link

http://www.tamarackoutdoors.co.uk/d...&filterb=Fire and Light&filterc=Fire By Spark

Simon
 

steve a

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Mr Ameling is too modest a man to put his own firesteels forward, I have quite a few examples of his work in my little collection and can recommend his work, the steels are historically researched and accurate reproductions of steels found in excavations and sites.They work pretty good as well !!!!!
No interest in his business just a satisfied customer.
 

Mike Ameling

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Yes, a short section of an OLD file will make a very good flint striker. But you have to be careful when picking out your file. Many modern ones are made from low-carbon steel that has had the teeth case-hardened. So once you get past the teeth, there is not enough carbon in the remaining steel to work well as a flint strikers. Most old files will work. One modern maker that still makes a good all high-carbon tool steel file is Nicholson.

Here's my little write-up about making your own flint striker from a file without any heating or forging. It's pretty similar to what Mr. Fenna has already posted. Some of the old Boy Scout troops used to teach this as a Scout project.

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A good, quick, striker project that you can make yourself is to make one from a scrap of a file - without any heat-treating or forging. Clamp about 3 inches of a worn file in a vise, and hit it with a hammer on the flat side right next to the vise. The part sticking out should snap right off. Drape a rag over it first to control any "shrapnel". Now take that chunk of file and grind the teeth off of one of the narrow edges. Cool it often. If it's getting too hot to hold in your fingers, cool it right away in water. You need to grind off all of the teeth, and get down to solid metal. Also grind a bit of the teeth off of each side along that narrow side. Those teeth interfere with using it as a striker. Now grind off any sharp edges from breaking off your chunk of file - this saves on cut fingers. You now have a pretty good using striker. They work great. This is an old project that a bunch of the Boy Scouts used to do. They ain't pretty, and you have to use a "pinch" grip, but they make a great striker. And they are historically correct. In most archeological digs, when they find a small section of a file, the usually just view it as a broken file. A check of the wear on the narrow edges would quickly show if it was used as a striker. A bunch were.

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Hope this helps. Yes, I do have a number of strikers made this way from old files. There's one in the pickup truck, the car, one muzzleloader hunting pouch, etc. There's even one right here on my desk to "play" with - along with a Scottish Snail style, a Viking double Snakes style, a British Crown style, a Dutch double Snail style, and a Russina Fur Trade style. And these are just the ones lying about to "play with".

Oh, the ... toys ... we play with.

Mikey - that grumpy ol' German blacksmith out in the Hinterlands
 

tommy the cat

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Feb 6, 2007
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Thanks I had already 'tried' to contact Jason01 and never had any reply. Aware of Mikes fantastic work but didn't think he shipped to the uk? I will be in Canada in two weeks and my mate will take delivery if I can get it to him in the next two weeks.
Thanks for all the links no it doesn't have to be c shaped but dont need anything to elaborate....although those dragons look awesome.
Just had some flint for some time and would like to have a go.......oh and in case you have seen me post on this topic before horse shoes are rubbish at firesteels!!!
Dave
 

Mike Ameling

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Hi, Dave.

No problems shipping to the UK by mail. Over the past couple years, I've mailed dozens of flint strikers to all parts of the UK in single packages and larger groupings. $3 usd generally covers shipping from 1 up to 3 or 4 flint strikers in a padded envelope by International First Class (used to be called Airmail Letter Post before the Post Office changed things a couple months ago). It can take anywhere from 3 to 9 days. I just have to add that green customs form. Shipping to Canada usually runs $2 usd.

You might also want to check with Andrew Packer at Nomad Bushcraft. I sent some over to him/them for the wilderness gathering August 30 - Sept 2nd. They might have some left. I haven't heard how it went for them.

Good luck on your ... quest for fire.

Thanks
Mikey - yee ol' grumpy blacksmith out in the Hinterlands
 

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