11binf said:here in the states we see a lot of neat items of kit with cool names....coleman used to be a name to trust in the camping world...but now alot of there stuff is made (maybe not lantrens and ice chests which i think are still made in the U.S.A. ) but small items of kit which carry the coleman name are made in the FAR EAST....also have seen the"WALTHER"banner on items like small shovels with survival kit inside .....to me vince g. this is FAR EAST RUBBISH....save your pennys and buy good kit....in the short run with the FAR EAST made stuff you might have kit failure at a bad time.....allways buy quaility items of kit....vince g. 11b inf.....![]()