Scottish Wild Camping With Airrifle?

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Hello all. I've been wondering, I know that in Scotland you are able to sleep pretty much where you like, but does anyone know the legality of hunting on these reserves? I know that people go out to cull the deer every so often, do you need a permit or something to be able to do this?
 
You can't hunt without the landowners permission. At the moment there aren't many restrictions on air rifle ownership in Scotland, (although this is very likely going to change) providing the rifle has a power of under 12 foot pounds. If you want to hunt and have no land of your own you must make friends and gain permission from a landowner. Once you have a permission know the boundaries of the land and what the landowner is letting you shoot.

Legal quarry in scotland is,

Rabbits, good to eat but should always be taken with a headshot.
Hares, good to eat but quite big for an air rifle so headshots only.
Rats, shoot on sight, chest or head shots.
Stoats, pests but kill rats too.
Weasels, same.
Grey Squirrel, shoot whenever you can as he is giving nice reds the pox, dirty buggers:mad:.

All these are pests and may be shot at any time by te landowner or someone who has his permission. You can't shoot foxes or deer. They are too big.

You can shoot pest birds under the conditions of the "general licences," which you don't need to apply for but have conditions. For instance you must have a reason for shooting a bird, common ones are to protect crops or wildlife. Read the general licenses on the BASC website which is the british association for shooting and conservation. You should think about joining too.

Pest birds are,

Wood pigeon, good to eat and a pest, headshots or back.
Feral pigeon, good to eat and make a mess in barns, heart shots work but learn where the heart is, its only slightly larger than the head.
Colared doves, good to eat but small and often quite tame so I don't.
Rooks, branchers, young rooks that can't fly yet are good to eat, adults not tasty. Heart shots ok.
Crows and magpies are pests, head and heartshots are ok.
Jays and jackdaws are considered pests but I think they are characters, like adult rooks are and let them off.

You can shoot game too, with the landowners permission of course and when it is in season. Game are phesants, partridge and wildfowl. All these need to be taken with headshots and shooting pheasnts with your rifle isn't considered the done thing but if the landowner says you can you are ok to do so.

Learn what your quarry looks like, be careful with pigeons as there are stock and turtle doves which look similar to people not farmiliar with them but are protected. Buy the book, "Air rifle hunting" by John Darling too, it's full of good info.

Learn to be a good shot before hunting live quarry, kill zones are quite small on all the quarry so you need to hit a beer bottle top every time at your chosen range, which is no more than thirty yards unless you are a better shot than me. My father bought me an air rifle when I was fourteen but I wasn't allowed to hunt until I could hit beer bottle tops he put on fence posts every time, quite right too.

I hope you have been paying attention, sorry if you knew any already but you sounded a bit out of your depth, you can't camp anywhere you want, I might already be there:D.
 
a deer with an air rifle? sounds optimistic.

You would not believe the iijits :sigh: I know of continental sportsmen who went to the other extreme and shot the wee birds, sparrows, blackies, robins, etc., using hunting rifles :rolleyes:
Three legged rabbits are a speciality of the shotgun numpties though.

M

p.s. I hasten to add that this is not a criticism of capable hunters, just the idiotic and ill prepared to be patient, ones.
 
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Over 12ft per lb then it becomes a Sect 5 firearm, then you may as well be a real man and buy a proper gun :)

No it doesn't. It just becomes a section 1 firearm - same as any other rifle. Plenty of them out there - althought not (in this country) the sort for deer. I'm not sure why a section 1 FAC makes me a real man though - and I'm worried that my wifes might make her a real man too?
 
No it doesn't. It just becomes a section 1 firearm - same as any other rifle. Plenty of them out there - althought not (in this country) the sort for deer. I'm not sure why a section 1 FAC makes me a real man though - and I'm worried that my wifes might make her a real man too?

Yep sorry Sec 1, I was simply adding some light hearted banter.
 
No never deer, law says in Scotland you need to be using a 100grain bullet with 1750 foot pounds. Big land owners tend to employ people to cull deer for them.
 
No never deer, law says in Scotland you need to be using a 100grain bullet with 1750 foot pounds. Big land owners tend to employ people to cull deer for them.

Just for completeness, that applies to deer larger than Roe in Scotland, they have dropped the muzzle energy for Roe and muntjac (plus CWD although I don't think there are any up there) to include .223 rounds

I don't think there are any air rifles that do get up above 1750 - but if you check out the Quackenbush website, some of those big bore air rifles can despatch Bison, Bear and other huge prey. Its funny that in this country we assume that all air rifles are 12 ft lb

On topic though, taking an air rifle onto land where you do not have permission to shoot (unless transporting for a legitimate purpose) would certainly in England qualify as armed trespass - and that certainly is a criminal matter
 
I have had FAC air rifles for several years and although my current one is pushing out the same as my mates rimfire!! I would'nt dream of shooting a deer with it!! sheer madness, unless you could walk up behind it and put the gun to its head!!! It seems that the original thread poster is quite good at starting "dubious" threads :)
 
Indeed they are knifefan - for the avoidance of doubt I wasn't thinking of one of "our" type 100ftlb type air rifles - but rather the "Quackenbush" type that shoot .308 and even .458 calibre rounds :)
 
On topic though, taking an air rifle onto land where you do not have permission to shoot (unless transporting for a legitimate purpose) would certainly in England qualify as armed trespass - and that certainly is a criminal matter

I have seen it used as a charge agenst a poacher, as well as "Discharging a Firearm within 50ft of a public highway" I just wasn't sure if it was still on the books as a viable charge with some of the recent changes to firearms law in the last few years.
 

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