First aid courses
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I did my First Aid at Work with my Advance Wilderness First Aid through Richard Cook at Wilderness First Response Ltd, who ran the 4 day course at Bushmoot last year.
We have been talking about the possibility of doing the Wilderness First Responder course.
Thoroughly recommended.
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We have been talking about the possibility of doing the Wilderness First Responder course.
Thoroughly recommended.
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I did the SLEEC course for my work on a rural estate, found it really good.
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I did the Adventurous Activities Outdoors First Aid with Venture Medical http://www.venture-medical.com/
Hi,
I have taken various first aid courses over my life, from water based life guarding, to simple first aid at work, to trauma based with the fire service and was wondering what the key differences are, the priority now with s.w.a.s. is to get you to A & E asap, so if your on your own or far from help, are these bush 1st aid courses leaning to that type of scenario or have i got this wrong gents..?
I have taken various first aid courses over my life, from water based life guarding, to simple first aid at work, to trauma based with the fire service and was wondering what the key differences are, the priority now with s.w.a.s. is to get you to A & E asap, so if your on your own or far from help, are these bush 1st aid courses leaning to that type of scenario or have i got this wrong gents..?
Wilderness First Aid is defined as more than an hour from external medical support.
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Hi adestu,
What will you be doing, how long for, where, how are you travelling and how far away is help? That would help you to find the right course for you.
What will you be doing, how long for, where, how are you travelling and how far away is help? That would help you to find the right course for you.
IMO if you are more than an hour away from definitive care the patient is either OK or dead. They will generally be a self selecting population (I know there will be exceptions). The important thing is to do the basics and do them well.
The only exception is if you are trained in more advanced stuff and equipped as such, but then it is a question of where do you draw the line? Traction splints? IV fluids (which ones). How will you control a massive bleed (TQ's are excruciating after 2 hours, so will you have an anaesthetic?)? etc.
The above isn't saying don't do the courses (or suggestions), because everyone should have more skills, but be aware of the limitations thrust upon you.
The only exception is if you are trained in more advanced stuff and equipped as such, but then it is a question of where do you draw the line? Traction splints? IV fluids (which ones). How will you control a massive bleed (TQ's are excruciating after 2 hours, so will you have an anaesthetic?)? etc.
The above isn't saying don't do the courses (or suggestions), because everyone should have more skills, but be aware of the limitations thrust upon you.
In the UK the most you will need is a first person on scene qual (FPOS-I).
That will give you a internationally recognised certificate and the right amount of training you will need to get by until help arrives.
If you thinking of more advance quals or if your going somewhere abroad where help isnt less than an hour away do the Medicine in remote areas coures (mira)
The MIRA course is advanced first aid and covers inserting I.V. canulas for giving fluids and should also cover giving of life saving drugs as well as other advanced life saving techniques.
But in the real world unless you going on an expedition as the group medic you wont be carrying much more than a basic first aid kit anyway, so stick with the FPOS-I course.
Im currently saving up to to the MIRA course as i want to become a group/expedition medic as a career path, and even get into more advanced life saving courses.
That will give you a internationally recognised certificate and the right amount of training you will need to get by until help arrives.
If you thinking of more advance quals or if your going somewhere abroad where help isnt less than an hour away do the Medicine in remote areas coures (mira)
The MIRA course is advanced first aid and covers inserting I.V. canulas for giving fluids and should also cover giving of life saving drugs as well as other advanced life saving techniques.
But in the real world unless you going on an expedition as the group medic you wont be carrying much more than a basic first aid kit anyway, so stick with the FPOS-I course.
Im currently saving up to to the MIRA course as i want to become a group/expedition medic as a career path, and even get into more advanced life saving courses.
Agree with Rebeldog
There is an alternative to FPOS - Have a look at Level 3 and level 4 Certificates in First Response Emergency Care (FREC) - certificated by Qualsafe
A company local to me (nothing to do with me) in Cornwall runs level 3 & 4 courses designed specifically for exped and bushcraft / forestry settings - the lecturers are tutors working for the ambulance service and work on the air ambulance
We learned a whole range of skills from snake bite treatment, suturing, firearms injuries to cutting into (& extraction from) a vehicle in a simulated RTA - strangely one of the more common medical emergencies on a remote exped
Unusual for such a course, they are run under exped conditions in the woods over 5 days - I enjoyed them immensely but bloody hard work with a lot of pre and post learning/study
There is an alternative to FPOS - Have a look at Level 3 and level 4 Certificates in First Response Emergency Care (FREC) - certificated by Qualsafe
A company local to me (nothing to do with me) in Cornwall runs level 3 & 4 courses designed specifically for exped and bushcraft / forestry settings - the lecturers are tutors working for the ambulance service and work on the air ambulance
We learned a whole range of skills from snake bite treatment, suturing, firearms injuries to cutting into (& extraction from) a vehicle in a simulated RTA - strangely one of the more common medical emergencies on a remote exped
Unusual for such a course, they are run under exped conditions in the woods over 5 days - I enjoyed them immensely but bloody hard work with a lot of pre and post learning/study
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