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Finally got my first ember today chuffed to bits, Thanks for all the help and advice guys.

Cheers for the advice guys, We shall keep at it and keep you posted. Dave.

Some friends and i have been trying to make fire by friction, We have tried many types of wood and find Willow to be really good. However all we have managed to make so far is lots of smoke and black dust, No matter what we try there is still no ember any ideas / Advice? Help us out please...