Part of carrying the epi-pen is to explain it's function, and when to use it, to nearest and dearest (and usual camping companions ) and work colleagues. That's written on the guidelines in the pack.
The guidelines are very, very, clear.
Intentionally so, since in need, no one needs panic or inability to administer the thing effectively.
Is this not the same with inhalers ? or the necessary medication for diabetes ?
cheers,
M
Diabetics self administer santamen.
I read somewhere last week that you will be able to buy Ventolin Evohalers 'over the counter' and Supermarkets will be selling them at about £7 each.
...It was you that said you would like a snake bite kit I was just showing its not current practice. If you know they are out of fashion why did you say you wanted one...
The emergency procedures are for when either you under-eat after taking them or if (while on a new regime of meds) they work overly well and your glucose levels crash. In that case the the procedure is to eat or drink something sweet immediately or get immediate medical attention. There are no self administered (or 1st aider allowed) glucose shots allowed here. Not sure about para-medics though.
That was one of my points. It is nonsense to elaborate on what you might be allowed to possess or administer and real first aid. Anti-venom, dramatic, elevate the limb and resting not mentioned and far more practical, hmmmm.
Elevate the limb is for bleeding; with a snakebite you want to do the opposite. The idea is to SLOW or PREVENT venom from getting to the organs.
Hawk, we are taught quite clearly on first aid courses that administering an epi pen must only be done with an epi pen prescribed for that individual.
They aren't a common component of workplace first aid kits. School nurses don't hold them in store for children or staff; the individual carries their own.
This is why I queried what you had written.
Toddy
For snake bite I was taught compression bandage and raise the limb, and case vac as soon as. Is that correct
That's fine Im sure our American colleagues know more about snake bites than me.
I'm interested in what kinds of snake bite kits are available, what they contain and how effective they are. Other than anti-venom that is.
So carry on
Do you think you could actually check those first aid kits ?
As I said earlier, the epi pen is the last resort. I could see the Doctor having access to one, but not in a standard factory FAkit.
I have good reason to ask; the pharmacy who do an automatic delivery of my repeat prescription got well and truly confused. Right now I have five, in date, epi-pens................and a new pharmacy
Parental religious sensibilites can be difficult to negotiate for teachers. I believe such details are clearly described/constrained on permission forms before every outing. They certainly are with any school I have worked with.
I don't know how the medical profession would deal with such an incident but I can't see them demanding that the teacher take responsibility in a full blown emergency.
cheers,
Toddy
Do you think you could actually check those first aid kits ?
As I said earlier, the epi pen is the last resort. I could see the Doctor having access to one, but not in a standard factory FAkit.
I have good reason to ask; the pharmacy who do an automatic delivery of my repeat prescription got well and truly confused. Right now I have five, in date, epi-pens................and a new pharmacy
Parental religious sensibilites can be difficult to negotiate for teachers. I believe such details are clearly described/constrained on permission forms before every outing. They certainly are with any school I have worked with.
I don't know how the medical profession would deal with such an incident but I can't see them demanding that the teacher take responsibility in a full blown emergency.
cheers,
Toddy
Not with injectable diabetes meds Mary. They're generally not an emergency thing (Insulin, Victoza, Byetta) They're a regular thing taken on a schedule to keep your glucose levels under control.
The emergency procedures are for when either you under-eat after taking them or if (while on a new regime of meds) they work overly well and your glucose levels crash. In that case the the procedure is to eat or drink something sweet immediately or get immediate medical attention. There are no self administered (or 1st aider allowed) glucose shots allowed here. Not sure about para-medics though.
So to clarify would it be OK to give a diabetic Glucose tablets like Dextrose or locosade tablets both of which can be bought in ASDA
I am asking because thi is what I was taught, but that was a while ago, and as some one else stated one of the aims of first aid is to do no harm?