Im not going to argue about this, the way I see it is that there is no need to be derogatory about anyone, its not the fact that its Ray - I feel the same when it's about anyone - its the fact that the thread has got off course. A few times now moderators and myself have asked for this thread to stay on course and not go off on a tangent about personal aspects of people, drinking and other non relative subjects.
The sarcasm directed at the moderators is also unappreciated and youve been told before that if you dont like it here, dont stay. Its funny how some people seem to get very serious about their supposed right to say what they like, about who they like, and yet tell others not to take bushcraft so seriously.
If you want to challenge the authority of the mods go right ahead. Remember though that this place is kept in order by them and they work really hard to make it a great place, doing as they ask is showing respect for what they do, you dont have to always agree with it, you just need to do it. And again, if thats too much to ask then find somewhere else that satisfies you.
Well open a new thread next week for the next show, this is getting way too unwieldy.