i`m a parent , i`ll take the blame for teaching my daughter to make fire with a strikalight, how to climb a tree, how to cook , how to ride a bike , how to pick yourself up and dust yourself down , to swim in the sea and to have good manners ,to stick up for yourself and what you believe in ,not to worry about money and material things but there`s nothing wrong with treating yourself if you work hard for it (physicaly or mentaly)and a whole load of other things too, and my son also , though he`s only one, but then they can take the blame for teaching me how to be a parent, the post that started this thread is a joke with some truth for us old ones( even though i`m only 35 soon) i like getting older , whatever age i am i havent been that age befoe so i may as well enjoy it , dont you young uns worry you`ll get your turn when your old enough