talking of which, that operation is a right pain on a cold wet night if you have to get out of you hammock, get your boots on to make it a reasonable distance away and then get back to bed. And it gets worse as you get older, trust me on thatcrazydave said:keep the bag and dont use down bags in a hammock unless you stick a kip mat under you - hammocks are generally comfy but a wee bit over rated ...