No receipt? In that case you can probably kiss it all goodbye...
Would the notebook entry not prove that the knives were taken from me?
No receipt? In that case you can probably kiss it all goodbye...
Did you read the two links I posted at all? Seriously this is 100% what I was taught.
I'm not anti-establishment or a pikey who thinks he knows the rules im just stating what I know.
I dont believe youve broke the law, goodluck to you getting your tools back.
Would the notebook entry not prove that the knives were taken from me?
You are wrong.
100%
Dartmoor navigator - totally agree on the nonsensical but i disagree that it was done and gone - my concern was that i had been told not to bring them out again. It is an incredible story, and i apologise if i have not described it very well. I honestly wish it was not mine to tell.
Vulpes - the police and rangers patrol most weekends. We were not on a private campsite, just a nice spot by a loch. I deal with the police fairly regularly and my experience in general have been good - as you say how you speak to them often affects the outcome. On this occassion i was polite and respectful - i didn't mind being questioned but i belived i was within the law as i was using the items in the manner they were intended. For info, i'm 33, there was alcohol present but not being consumed - i explained i had insisted on this before using the knives but he wasn't intrested.
Taken from you yes... disposed of, no. They could just say it was all handed in for disposal
i studied law @ A level and I know this for a fact ...
to commit a crime you need ... the mensrea and the actusrea.
mensrea is the forethought of commiting a crime.
actusrea is the action of committing a crime.
you've already stated you dont know the laws so no crime has been committed.
so until you're actually told something is illegal its not.
ok no worries ... ill just throw my private education and degree in the bin ;0)
you are a typical policeman.
Can we have more detail on the discussions and actions within the police station when you handed the items to them, and the reaction and conversation that ensued at that time.
As for that quote. Well, it's quite possibly the dumbest and most innaccurate piece of information ever. If you'd have attended your lectures, you might have heard that ignorance is no defence. I see you mention studying it, but no mention of passing it. It's quite clear based on that post - you did not.
The heated-ness begins...I smell a locked thread coming
Contact a solicitor IMMEDIATELY, the police know they can't fob off a solicitor but may try to fob you off without one, say nothing more to the police and get a solicitor NOW, only a solicitor will ensure the police act lawfully.
DO NOT EVER ACCEPT THAT CAUTION UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES !!
if the state makes a law and tells no one about this law you cannot be charged for breaking it. (We would live in a pretty messed up state if it were any other way)
Robbi, what are the options if that is offered?