Much improved now. Back to her pre-episodic strength and energy levels and her appetite is back. I'll start easing her back onto dog food tomorrow.
Sick Dog :(
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Update to warn others. Dinah (my dog) is still doing well but I think I've found the cause. As I said, I'd put her on a soft diet due to the original ailment (a bleeding tongue) Well, soft diet meant canned dog food I'd bought specifically for that purpose (she normally eats dry kibble) Tonight I saw a headline online about a dog food recall and when I checked it the brand I had fed her was on the list (Gravy Train's Chicken Chunks --- UPC code 7910034418) The recalled dog foods contain pentobarbitol, a euthanasia drug. There were others on the list and you might want to check any you have
www.people.com/pets/dog-food-recall-euthanasia-drug
www.people.com/pets/dog-food-recall-euthanasia-drug
I'd like to know how does a dog food manufacturer "accidentally" add pentobarbitol into its product? Unless it was a disgruntled employee?
Your poor old dog. But at least you have an explanation now. And she's on the mend. But how many other dogs affected?
Your poor old dog. But at least you have an explanation now. And she's on the mend. But how many other dogs affected?
Only her in my house. The rest were on kibble. Worldwide I'm not sure. I'd also like to know how it happened.
Jeez! I hope it's an American only brand because we've been thinking if wet food with dry for our pup. Don't want to risk anything like a euthanasia drug in food. We don't tend to get to hear about a lot of recalls in the UK. I think America's got q better system for recall.
I think they use animals ( pigs, cattle) that has been euthanized for animal food. Not suitable for human consumtion.
I have read they also use cats and dogs, but I think that is just an urban myth..
I have read they also use cats and dogs, but I think that is just an urban myth..
All of the ones recalled are from Gravy Train. I'll post a link to the article (including the list) after my reply to Janne. Many are made or packed in China.
No. It was chicken I used (others were on the list) Here's the article with the list: www.cnn.com/2018/02/18/health/dog-food-pentobarbital
Chicken. Chicken are euthanized using an injection?
Because that is the only way it could get into the chicken.
Weird!
I think there is another animal species used in that food.
Because that is the only way it could get into the chicken.
Weird!
I think there is another animal species used in that food.
never heard of those brands. Looks like an American supply only. Thanks for posting link. Always worth making sure.
I.hope you're dog is fully recovered now.
I.hope you're dog is fully recovered now.
Dog food isn't specific to an ingredient. Horse, pig, cattle can be included without the manufacturer having to state it, it's just labelled "meat derivatives". Bakers are a major manufacturer here, and their food sent my dog completely mad. The puppy trainer I went to asked me about her diet when I told her the pup was "fly snapping" at non existent flies and told me the lovely colours we see in the food are exactly the same as now banned ingredients in human food. I.e. ADHD and epilepsy causing. Look at the money spent on Bakers advertising, the amount of space the products take up in supermarket aisles and you'll soon realise the money isn't going into the food. We changed her diet to quality food, and within 3 weeks her fly snapping had stopped.
Bakers is made by Purina, and Purina is owned by Nestlé. Need I say more? Have a read.
https://www.doglistener.co.uk/bakers-pedigree-dogfood
Regarding human consumption, it wasn't long ago there was a scandal in the UK where some beef mince products were found to be made with horse meat, sometimes 100% horsemeat. If it can happen in human food, then it can easily happen in the pet food industry.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_horse_meat_scandal
I remember the horse fiasco vividly.
The Swedish brand Findus used lots of horse meat. Factory made Lasagna by Findus has not tasted as nice since then!
IKEA’s meatballs had also a previous equestrian history.
I am happy Santamans doggy recovered well.
Edit: I do not mind eating horse. In fact I used to buy it in Calais and bring over to UK. But I want to eat ‘what is says on the tin’.
The Swedish brand Findus used lots of horse meat. Factory made Lasagna by Findus has not tasted as nice since then!
IKEA’s meatballs had also a previous equestrian history.
I am happy Santamans doggy recovered well.
Edit: I do not mind eating horse. In fact I used to buy it in Calais and bring over to UK. But I want to eat ‘what is says on the tin’.
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Chickens here are euthanized by gassing them. I suspect it was a disgruntled employee.
Thanks. Me too.
Here if the label says chicken then it must be chicken (Truth in Labeling) That said, i agree manufacturers probably don't always follow the rules.
Tanks. Me too (about my dog getting well. And likewise about wanting the human food labels to be truthful.
Nice Danish sausage!Try the Danish sausage, they didn't try to sneak things past anyone.
Is it kosher?
It says it is’ Low in Fat’ , but ‘Full of Taste’!
But most industrial food is diluted and adulterated with cheap ingredients.
Check out your jams. Pectin. You need to add a little bit to set certain marmelades, sure, but it is mainly used to bulk it up.
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Phenobarbital isn't administered as gas though, it's injected. I think. If the UK product say chicken, then the meat content must be predominately chicken, but that can be 4% chicken and the rest listed as meat derivatives. That allows for a larger percentage of mixed meat derivatives.
Still, I'm glad your dog is well again, it seems dog food is a bit of a lottery. Guy I know used to render whole chickens in a pressure cooker for a couple of hours and the bones crumbled to mush. Mixed with rice or potato, that's a good dog food.
You can kill anything with plain old carbon dioxide/beer fizz (burp!). In small amounts, it's edible in drinks (belch!)
If I remember my human physiology notes, humans breathe in air which is about 21% oxygen.
They breathe out air which is about 16% oxygen (yes, you only get the top.)
Give a human air with 12% oxygen and they die.
How much horse lung is in the chicken nuggets at dirty Ronnie's?
Almost but not quite chicken toenails in the fries.
If I remember my human physiology notes, humans breathe in air which is about 21% oxygen.
They breathe out air which is about 16% oxygen (yes, you only get the top.)
Give a human air with 12% oxygen and they die.
How much horse lung is in the chicken nuggets at dirty Ronnie's?
Almost but not quite chicken toenails in the fries.
Yeah, they can do the same thing here too. But if chicken's the only "meat" listed, then it has to be all chicken (no "meat" or "meat derivatives" were listed)
All that said, euthanasia drugs weren't listed either.
