Carving a Spoon (Novice)

shaggystu

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Hm, the sandpaper I have in the house only comes in 150s, 100s and 60s... Does it matter? As a beginner I only want a smooth spoon, not really worried about the technical details or anything.

Not in the slightest, start with the littlest numbers and work through to the biggest.
 

Two Socks

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I usually start with 100 grid. Then 240, 400 and if i want it really smooth 600. The higher grids take less time though.
 

THOaken

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Not in the slightest, start with the littlest numbers and work through to the biggest.
It kind of sounds counter intuitive to me to start with the finest, which for me would be 60, then use a coarser 100. Surely it should be the other way around in that you take more material off at the start with a coarser grade and then finish it with a lighter grade, no?

You're probably right anyway.
 

Barn Owl

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It kind of sounds counter intuitive to me to start with the finest, which for me would be 60, then use a coarser 100. Surely it should be the other way around in that you take more material off at the start with a coarser grade and then finish it with a lighter grade, no?

You're probably right anyway.

The lower numbers are the coarsest
 

Two Socks

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100 is the coarsest, and then the grid gets finer and finer. It is measured in how many grains of abrasive there are per square cm or something i think.
 

Two Socks

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huh, is BcUK behaving a bit odd today or is it just my pc? The editor doesn`t let me backspace and I couldn`t see Barn Owls posts till just now...
 

Leiflet

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Just to say how much I'm liking watching this thread unfold.

I did a lot of learning about spoon-making over about a month while working on set-up and tat-down of a festival. Not much to do in my spare time but make spoons. Ended up doing nearly twenty and the difference between the ones I did at the beginning of the month and those at the end was quite marked. I think you're doing well to just do what you can with with what skills you have and then move on and apply what you've learnt to a new spoon rather than spend a lot of time trying to correct mistakes.

on another note, I'd say 60grit is really quite coarse and using it might be a step backwards from what you can achieve with just your knife. Are you using your knife to scrape the wood smoother before sanding? I generally find this a quicker and more effective method than trying to rub down a coarse surface.

Cheers,
Leif
 

Two Socks

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You use the coarsest untill you have the shape you want and removed all the bumps etc you want to get rid of. Then you use each subsequent grid until you have removed all the scratches from the last grid. As you proceed the finer grids take less time, usually. Good luck, and show the progress again! :)
 
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shaggystu

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Just bought a wide range of paper and some walnut oil. Silly question, but how much time do you need to spend on each grade of sand paper?

The honest answer to that would be "the correct amount of time", but that's not really all that helpful. It's impossible for any of us to sit here and give you times for woodworking, factors that would influence the time spend would include: area of wood, hardness of wood, moisture content of the wood, moisture content of the air, strength of your arms, size of your hands, number of tea breaks, frequency/prettiness of passing girls etc. etc. If you could answer all those questions (and probably quite a few more) then one of our resident scientists would probably be able to give you a working answer, in all honesty though I would expect that a much quicker way to get an answer would be to have a glance at the clock and then just crack on with it. It's an art mate, not a science :)
 

Mesquite

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As Stu says plus also if you can still see the marks left by the first grit of paper you used after moving on then keep going.

Once they're all gone and you're on your final grade of paper quickly dunk the spoon in water, let it dry and run your finger over it. If the wood feels rough then back to the final grade of paper until it feels smooth again.

Keep doing the water process until it feels totally smooth after dunking then rub your chosen finish on to the spoon.
 

THOaken

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The honest answer to that would be "the correct amount of time", but that's not really all that helpful. It's impossible for any of us to sit here and give you times for woodworking, factors that would influence the time spend would include: area of wood, hardness of wood, moisture content of the wood, moisture content of the air, strength of your arms, size of your hands, number of tea breaks, frequency/prettiness of passing girls etc. etc. If you could answer all those questions (and probably quite a few more) then one of our resident scientists would probably be able to give you a working answer, in all honesty though I would expect that a much quicker way to get an answer would be to have a glance at the clock and then just crack on with it. It's an art mate, not a science :)
Point taken, friend. :lmao:

Cheers.
 

THOaken

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Finished sanding the spoon. Here it is.

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Unfortunately I couldn't get walnut oil but I've got raw linseed oil. I'll try it soon.
 

Goatboy

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Finished sanding the spoon. Here it is.

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Unfortunately I couldn't get walnut oil but I've got raw linseed oil. I'll try it soon.

As Stu said "It's an art mate, not a science :)" and hey presto you've created a work of art! That looks terrific, I'm impressed.
 

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Looking good there THOaken. One tip I picked up about final sanding is to let up on the pressure as you only want to remove the the rough that raised by the soaking, heavy sanding at this point will only make more rise.
 

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