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Retired Member southey

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Probably not over here, toyotas are the pickup of choice for farmers and the like, the pricing that keep UK would put on it would shoot out of any sensible use for hard work dudes price range, what would sell would be the unlimited with the diesel that we get but with the full runicon package, we only get the gutless v6 short wheelbase in rubicon flavor so you have to spend a tonn of cash to get an old model upto eunu standard(lockers and the like)
 

spandit

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I've got one of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDaV-w2m3M8

Haven't uploaded my latest video, but it ****** all over a kitted out Defender 110 the other day. Landie was trying to get through a puddle and failed after 3 attempts. The Pinzgauer just trundled through it with no problems - it's the locking diffs and improved clearance with the portals that make the difference.
 

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Probably not over here, toyotas are the pickup of choice for farmers and the like, the pricing that keep UK would put on it would shoot out of any sensible use for hard work dudes price range, what would sell would be the unlimited with the diesel that we get but with the full runicon package, we only get the gutless v6 short wheelbase in rubicon flavor so you have to spend a tonn of cash to get an old model upto eunu standard(lockers and the like)

Yeah I don't think it would sell here as a "work" truck either. They're hoping for a market as a "sport" truck though. Just a concept so far. Many of the comments I've seen on their website are requests for things that would make it more useful as a work truck; unfortunately those things would also make it less useful as a go anywhere sport truck.

Don't know what the final result will be but I hope we finally get a Wrangler in some form with a diesel over here too.
 

Retired Member southey

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If they pumped out the military variant them they would have a good contender both sides of the pond i reckon, so basic but so good with it, I think the Saudi's and even our own procurement depts were looking at it as a replacement to our landys, bu the lack of a firm box body variant scuppered it here, would need to be a light utility truck that could be modded to be used for all the rolls we used land rovers for, which is why there are now five different wagons providing more specialised designs, jackel mastif and the like. I LOVE American Expedition Vehicles, I have a saving account just for the brute body and 5.7 hemi conversion!!!!! the only thing i'd add to the package(obviously winches all round) would be a canvas bed top or a hard cover, that is one sexual truck!! for those who don't know what it is CHECK THIS OUT!

Jeep TJ Brute conversion kit from AEV

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santaman2000

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Regarding all the variants (military and otherwise) I think that's the primary advantage Jeep and Land Rover have over all the competition. There's just an unlimited number of aftermarket "kits" that can be used to modify them into virtually anything you want.

P.S. Thanks for the pic! That's 4-wheelin'!
 
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spandit

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Don't fall into the trap of spending more on mods than you would on buying a better vehicle to begin with. From my experience, modded Land Rovers start breaking because they're being made to drive stuff they weren't designed for. You can lift a Defender and fit knobbly tyres but without spending a few grand on lockers, it won't be as capable in the rough stuff as a stock Pinzgauer (and Perenti aside, you'd be hard pushed to find a 6x6!)

Don't know a huge amount about the Volvos. They were designed for the same tender, I think but have never seen one to compare
 

santaman2000

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Don't fall into the trap of spending more on mods than you would on buying a better vehicle to begin with. From my experience, modded Land Rovers start breaking because they're being made to drive stuff they weren't designed for. You can lift a Defender and fit knobbly tyres but without spending a few grand on lockers, it won't be as capable in the rough stuff as a stock Pinzgauer (and Perenti aside, you'd be hard pushed to find a 6x6!)

Don't know a huge amount about the Volvos. They were designed for the same tender, I think but have never seen one to compare

Yeah but I think we were talking about body styles and mods. You can buy a whole new basic Jeep body tub for less than $400. Special purpose bodies and kits are more but the variety is endless.

As for the Volvo or Pizgauer, I don't think I've ever heard of them competing in the major off road races such as the Mint 400 or the Baja 1000. I don't know as much about the Camel Stakes but I don't recall one ever competing there either.
 
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Peter_t

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Don't fall into the trap of spending more on mods than you would on buying a better vehicle to begin with. From my experience, modded Land Rovers start breaking because they're being made to drive stuff they weren't designed for. You can lift a Defender and fit knobbly tyres but without spending a few grand on lockers, it won't be as capable in the rough stuff as a stock Pinzgauer (and Perenti aside, you'd be hard pushed to find a 6x6!)

Don't know a huge amount about the Volvos. They were designed for the same tender, I think but have never seen one to compare


i agree with you, you could easily spend £10,000 highly modifying a defender when you can buy a pinzgauer for the same price and it will never be quite in the same league. although for some this is all part of the hobby but if you come to sell it you are gonna make a huge loss.

i have heard good things about the volvos, very similar to the unimogs but less agricultural. portal axels, two diff locks and a good solid 3 liter petrol from the old volvo estates. they can be picked up for around 4 grand too!




pete
 

Peter_t

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As for the Volvo or Pizgauer, I don't think I've ever heard of them competing in the major off road races such as the Mint 400 or the Baja 1000. I don't know as much about the Camel Stakes but I don't recall one ever competing there either.

the volvo once won the small truck class in the dakar rally
look here http://www.offrd.se/photo/paris-dakar-c303-at-the-volvo-museum

i think the pinzgauer hasn't entered any big races is because they where made specificly as military vehicles so wouldn't have got any sponsors etc.


pete
 

santaman2000

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the volvo once won the small truck class in the dakar rally
look here http://www.offrd.se/photo/paris-dakar-c303-at-the-volvo-museum

i think the pinzgauer hasn't entered any big races is because they where made specificly as military vehicles so wouldn't have got any sponsors etc.


pete

The Dakar Rally is a new one for me. I've only heard of it earlier this year. That's an awful big "small truck" though. LOL. I don't know of any of the vehicle manufacturers who "get" sponsors though; they tend to be their own sponsors whereas the individual racers who built their own are the ones who need a sponsor. Toyota Racing Development (TRD) is specifically one of the manufacturing competitors that comes to mind.
 

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