Thinking of emigrating to New Zealand

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Zammo

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Jul 29, 2006
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Me and my wife have started to get really hacked off with living in England, the weathers rubbish, its hideously expensive, the house we bought and done up is now probably only worth what we paid for and now on top of that the country is in a recession.

We've been contemplating emigrating to New Zealand so I looked into it today and did a Expression of Interest test online, due to my wife's job its seems we will get accepted, as she works in a job where they have an absolute skills shortage.

I was just wondering if anyone else has emigrated to New Zealand and if so how long did the process take and if they have any other advise that'd be appreciated.
 

korvin karbon

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Jul 12, 2008
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i nearly went over with the ex, but instead i found someone else (now an ex long story :lmao:) if i had the chance again i would move there, amazing countryside, keeps its nose out of world politics, relaxed life style and amazing countryside too
 

Ogri the trog

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Apr 29, 2005
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An old workmate of mine went over a few years ago.
He joined a forum dedicated to it and they met regularly in person in Blighty before going. When they got the the other side, there were friendly faces to meet them at the airport and guide them through their first few days - it all sounded very civilised and friendly.
One thing I don't know is the addy of the forum but a few google searches should turn something up.

ATB

Ogri the trog
 

joejoe

On a new journey
Jan 18, 2007
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my friend daughter has just went there,by all accounts a totally diferent lifestyle, ie went to visit friends over xmas he took them for a ride over his farm.in his helicopter
 

Melonfish

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Jan 8, 2009
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Got a m8 out in cromwell totally loving it, he says its the most beautiful place he's ever seen and he's from yorkshire (nutter)

loves the place and can't say a bad word about it. well worth a holiday to check it out.
 

wicca

Native
Oct 19, 2008
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South Coast
Until she died just over a year ago my sister had lived there since 1952, and I made regular voyages there as a merchant seaman for many years, so my view is not that of a resident but a visitor, but not a tourist if you get my drift?
Like everywhere else it has it's own problems, Queens Street in Auckland has witnessed gang wars between drug dealers and there is some racial tension often connected with this. 'The Islanders' are people from the Pacific New Zealand administered islands who have right of residence in Kiwi. Whether it is right or fair to blame them and the native Maoris I honestly don't know and can't comment. Recession is not confined to UK, all countries will be effected, my sister often spoke of rising prices and changing times, but old wrinklies (of which I am one) ofter speak of the 'good old times'..:D
I visited my sister every time I sailed there, her house originally deeply rural moved into town! When I last saw her the house was next to a housing estate!!
I have loaded frozen lamb, wool and dairy produce from Auckland and Wellington in the North Island to Dunedin right down to Bluff in the South Island. British weather crap?? Ha! try Bluff in the winter..:D
All the above are just my comments, not opinions...My opinion for what it's worth is don't hesitate Zammo. It is indeed a very beautiful land, still I suspect with less people in it than London and Manchester combined. The people are brilliant too. Pull your weight, don't moan 'It's not like this in Uk', just get stuck in and in no time you'll wonder why you didn't go 10 years ago..:D
 

Shewie

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Dec 15, 2005
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We`re in the same position as you Zammo but we`ve got western Canada in mind. The wife`s a teacher so we`ve got no problem getting in at the moment, but I don`t want to work in IT anymore so I`ve got to think about what I`m gonna do.
We`re both in our early 30s with no kids and no major commitments, we`re considering a short stop in Scotland en-route first though.
 

Dingo

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Jan 7, 2005
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Me and my family emigrated there in 2001, its a fantastic place with some great scenery and some lovely people, BUT.
Know this scenery, people, lifestyle doesnt pay the bills, and although there is a list of job vacancies make sure you get one before you go, and you know the salary.
i think you will need a minimum of $50k nz to survive, there is no agricultural or gov subsidy there so a good loaf of bread was about $2 and in general everything including lamb! was expensive, please do your homework.
also check out somewhere to live, we where based in hamilton and the rents varied from about $150-$350 also check the standard of accommodation, we are european and there is a distinct difference in standard, the houses tend to be timber framed and clad, also a little dated, they are not generally central heated and can be quite different to what your used to. the areas with the cheapest rents are generally the ones with a high crime rate or predominately maori/islander based, i personally got on well with them but their culture is very strong and they are not very forgiving, hey mate get over it with a shrug of the shoulders is normal and in general they are a tough breed of people.
all of your earnings are liable to tax @ 30% at the time, so remember to take that into consideration when doing your sums, they also have their version of vat called gst which at the time was 12.5%.
if you only want the simple things in life, and love the outdoors and rugby, netball, sport in general, agriculture, and you are willing to work hard and not complain then its a great place to go, percentage wise its got just the same amount of criminals,drugs and problems as everywhere else, its just that there are only 5 million people strewn across the same land mass as the uk, so it seems some areas have no problems and others have more.
we came back because of financial reasons and we had children when we went, at the time we had 11 & 9 year old boys and a 2 year old girl, so it was tough, we also had the family ringing up and crying to the kids which doesnt help, that home sickness thing is hard to whack, we could have stayed there and be debt free in a house on about an acre, but we would have been stuck because its a long way from anywhere and a return trip back to the uk would have cost us about a years salary, also as the kids turned 18 they would have been straight back to the uk on a tour probably never to return.

i loved it but im a bloke and i love the outdoors and rugby so for me its great, my advice and opinion, do your homework real well, dont wear rose coloured specs, cus the reality is there is no benefits system for an emigrating family/person, only asylum seekers of which it takes its fair share, and if you go for a job and the other bloke going for its a kiwi with less qualifications, dont get upset when he gets the job. racism is alive and kicking in the southern hemisphere and you need to be able to accept that you will be the immigrant.
there is a difference between quality of life and standard of living, make sure you are fully aware of this before you go anywhere and you know your own parameters. you will be surprised at the standard of living for the working man as opposed to europe, and the void between the haves and the have nots.

no offense is meant by the above to anyone or malice meant, these are just my opinions and experiences.

Adam.
 

Zammo

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Jul 29, 2006
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Wow some harsh facts Dingo. Tax is 30% that's scary, not to mention the other things you've highlighted. I think my wife who's a Specialist Speech and Language Therapist wouldn't have a problem finding a job but I'm not to sure about my own circumstances. Your post is quite an eye opener and paints a very different picture to the one the New Zealand immigrations website does. I think we may have to reconsider our destination as it was always between New Zealand, Australia or Canada. I know its very hard to get your application accepted to Australia though.
 

John Fenna

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Oct 7, 2006
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My Aunt and Uncle emigrated out there - and came back!
Tax, money and crime seemed to be the reasons for them to take against the place - and they were Brummies with no pretentions of shirking hard work for just returns......
 

trail2

Nomad
Nov 20, 2008
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Canton S.Dakota (Ex pat)
For what its worth. I know of 3 families from NZ who moved here (South Dakota) because they could make and keep more $$$$.
Now that's saying something when SD is ranked 46th in State incomes per capita.
Jon R.
 

dogwood

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Oct 16, 2008
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San Francisco
I can't speak to New Zealand, only Australia, which I like a lot (great people).

However, I have spent a huge amount of time in Canada and I think for anyone in the UK, Canada is a fantastic option. (Particularly Western Canada, Shewie).

The people are simply great and the outdoors are spectacular and in all its hard to fault the place much.

Australia continues to have a strong British flavor to it and I assume New Zealand does as well. You won't find that in Canada -- it's decidedly North American in attitude and culture, despite the Commonwealth and the Queen, etc. For the most part, the British flavor of the place is subdued to the point of being a minor background note.

(That said, there are distinct pockets of communities in northern British Columbia and the Yukon territory that strongly retain their original national flavor -- you can find little Czech enclaves/villages there, for instance. It's odd and wonderful.)

I can't recommend Canada more highly. And western Canada, is just marvelous.
 

ArkAngel

Native
May 16, 2006
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North Yorkshire
Our current neighbours lived in NZ for many years.

They went out there and returned about 3 years ago due to ill health of their parents (in the UK). They are also a very close knit family so at the time it was important to them.

As has been said it is not all roses and hobbit holes. It has it's problems but from a few people i know who have gone over there don't regret it for a second.
 

Pang

Forager
Sep 8, 2007
170
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london
This probably wont apply to you,
My friend had to to get 1 years experience in his job before he went.
So I would guess in less than a year you could be away. :D

I'm looking into it but bout it will happen.:(
moving so soon shaman??? lol, yeah i headr sumthiing like that, like all palces you need to have some skills and some work planned out over there before they let you move for permenant residence.

Been looking into that place, nice and cheap, plenty of wildlife etc..etc... oh yeah relaxed gun laws for those who like em
 

swagman

Nomad
Aug 14, 2006
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Tasmania
Hi Zammo
Me and my girlfriend moved to Tassie 3 years ago and havnt looked back it took
about a year to go through all the procedure.

Tassie has the best of both worlds the buety of NZ and the nicer weather.

Have a look on British expats forum you may learn what you need to know.

But be worned they are a bunch of whingers who have to comper every where to the uk.
 

deeps

Forager
Dec 19, 2007
165
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Monmouthshire
I lived there for about 5 years. Blokes country, loved it. Came back to the UK for business reasons but still return now and again. Dingos take on it is pretty fair. It is not an easy country to make a living in being prone to a boom and bust economy.

Reckon Canada has a lot to offer with a very strong economy closer to big markets.
 

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