Why?..... he is giving credit where credit is due and not claiming it as his design..... or did you mean 'ray didn't design it' or did you mean 'you can't copy rays design'......He says it was originally designed by Ray Mears as the Woodlore knife
Surely thats illegal
I meant that he is copying his design is he not? And if you say that it's not exactly the same it wouldn't really matter because he basically says it's the same design as the woodlore. Is that not illegal then?Ed said:Why?..... he is giving credit where credit is due and not claiming it as his design..... or did you mean 'ray didn't design it' or did you mean 'you can't copy rays design'......
Young Bushman said:
A bit harsh Martyn. The posts on blade forums say that the customer came to him with a very specific design and he made it for them. It was only in that thread that he realised that the design was by Ray Mears. He doesn't even mention Alan Wood because I genuinely beleive he hasn't seen his work and even if you had seen alan's site it makes no mention of woodlore.Martyn said:Hmmm, on reflection and after reading over that in detail, as well as looking at the sheath, I'd have to amend my opinion and say that the Linger knife (and sheath) is a complete rip of the woodlore.
V.Bad Mr Linger.
I hope you don't mind how I have replied to your post it just seemed eaisest.Martyn said:Thing is TB, it's a suprisingly small world, this knifemaking thing. Mr Linger has made several of these knives and is asking us to accept that until it was mentioned in that thread, the Woodlore was completely unknown to him - maybe, but I frankly doubt it. I see your point on that one.
Either he has directly copied the Woodlore himself, or his customer has and provided him with specs which are a copy of the woodlore. If the latter, and he was genuinely unaware of the origin, now it has been made aware to him, decency would dictate he should withdraw his copies from the market IMO. I think it is more a customer thing but that is open to discussion
Either way, someone (the maker or the customer) has plagarised the woodlore - even down to the sheath, of that there is no doubt. If he wasn't before, the maker is now aware he is copying another makers knife, of that there is no doubt (he admits as much by crediting the Woodlore). Again no one can say that it is not a copy but what about my two examples of very similar knives do they fall under the same category?
....Just calling it as I see it.
...very little can be done about it though - it's down to "honour amonst knifemakers" i think. I doubt Woodlore would get anywhere by attempting a legal solution. Do you think that no one is allowed to make an example of this knife with changes for a customer? I think that all the best designs of everything are copied, look at cars, buildings, hair styles, fashion, outdoor equipment, dyson hoovers etc.