potasium permanganate+suger

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RAPPLEBY2000

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Dec 2, 2003
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i had a friend some years ago that showed me some of the methods, that then went on to demonstrate how to make smoke bombs, and small incendary devices, and went on to tell me how he'd made bombs and placed them near army bases :eek: (i didn't believe a word of it :rolleyes: )!
sufice to say i 'm not his friend any more! :buttkick:

he did have an unsensible amount of chemical weedkiller in his house!

the chemical firelighting method i use today is matches! :D
best leave the rest for rainy days in the garage!

put it this way i have tried nearly all those methods and none are anywhere near as reliable as a firesteel, (taking into account safety, weather, enviroment so:


do i carry a bucket of chemicals or a firesteel? :dunno:
 

hammy

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Sep 28, 2004
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Seen it performed a while ago, good to know as you never know when you may need the knowledge. Also I think this is more probably new bushcraft in the bigger picture of when things were discovered.
 

dommyracer

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May 26, 2006
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Haha PP and sugar, I remember getting a BIG telling off from a scout leader for playing with that back in the day......
 
Where does everybody buy their potassium permanganate from? I've been thinking of adding some to my PSK for a while now, ebay used to have it for a decent price and the only other places I can find that sell it want to sell me crazy amounts like 5kg :rolleyes:
 

Rocket

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Mar 30, 2006
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I'm a senior technician, running a few labs, so I tend to 'play' with Potassium Permanganate a fair bit....great for getting a Thermite reaction going ;)
 

Great Pebble

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Jan 10, 2004
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PP & sugar will start fires with tinder so wet or poor that firesteel will make no impression.. For that matter you'd be through half a box of matches at least before you got the same heat/energy released.

Good stuff when used correctly. Blinding fun when used absolutely incorrectly. :D
 

RAPPLEBY2000

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Dec 2, 2003
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stupid i just remembered...... :eek:

CAUTION WHEN USING POTASSIUM PERMANGANATE!!!!!!:slap: :eek: :eek:

DO NOT BREATH IN THE POWDER!
(if you breath a large amount by accident seek medical advice)

the powder has an extreme burning effect and can damage your lungs skinn eyes etc etc (just think oven cleaner)! and is potentially leathal for children or the infirm.


when wet PP is fine, all this mixing pp with sugar could be dangerous!

i have used PP to sterilise water for 10 days and have had no ill effects, later i was reminded it's a heavy metal and takes ages for your body to get rid of it!

take care and read those labels!!
 

Schwert

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Apr 30, 2004
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It contains manganese not magnesium.

It is a metal but not a heavy metal like lead, but more like iron or copper. Potassium permanganate is highly reactive and will easily damage mucus membranes. Eyes, mouth, throat and lungs are quite easy targets for the dry powder so it should be used with great caution.

Fire making with it and sugar can be fun but I find it more of a trick method than a practical method.
 
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Schwert said:
Potassium permanganate is highly reactive and will easily damage mucus membranes.

...yup! hence my sneezing upon first opening a pot of it. As said burns very hot, so has it's place in a survival tin i'd say. The heavy metal point is well placed, it is not something i have thought of as regards the dangers of it's uses. Only for emergencies then!...
 

BobFromHolland

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Jan 9, 2006
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It burns nicely 9:1 with suger, and lights easilly with a spark from your fire steel.

I also have a hard time getting a new stack since I ran out of it.

OK, it's nasty stuff... That's why you can purify water with it. You can't do that with a drop of lemonade!!
I don't wanna know what bad you can do with Chlorine as well!
Dosage is the key I guess. As with all the fun stuff :D
 

RAPPLEBY2000

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not that i know what the combination is nor would i say :togo:
but aparently bleach mixed with some other household cleaner will cause an explosion in your loo! :eek:
 

Biddlesby

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May 16, 2005
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Can anybody quantify the process of sterilisation using Potassium Permanganate for, say, a litre of water that has been filtered of debris?

And some rough idea of dosage for your use would be good too, BOD.

Cheers
 

PhilParry

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Sep 30, 2005
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I was surprised when this was shown to us on a course rescently. The other method of fire lighting that gobsmacked me was putting fine wire wool across a batteries terminals

It burns even when wet!! :Wow:

Phil
 

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