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rapidboy

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Good they are starting to arrive, the belts are due to arrive tomorrow for the belt group buy so it will be a hectic few days getting those away and as soon as we have that out of the way we will be sorting a motor for these.
 

luckylee

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Good they are starting to arrive, the belts are due to arrive tomorrow for the belt group buy so it will be a hectic few days getting those away and as soon as we have that out of the way we will be sorting a motor for these.
as you no mate, if you could pop me down on the list for the motor please, that would be great.
 

wasteoid

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Hi rapid mate,

Grinder arrived today. Well chuffed with it. If a deal comes up for grinders could interested. I have something but it is far from ideal

Chris
 

rapidboy

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The belts are here and David is getting them packed up tonight to go out tomorrow, we tested them today and they run nice and smooth.
[video=youtube;YooKHfvIC5o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YooKHfvIC5o&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/video]

That's a 60 followed by a 120 and then a 320, the belt changes are very quick and easy as you can see.
[video=youtube;ekiolBQQ8Ek]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekiolBQQ8Ek[/video]

We are waiting on a sample laser cut adaptor plate to arrive and have a motor sorted, i will get a video up asap.
 

rapidboy

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If anybody ordered belts in the group buy, i just heard from David and they all went out yesterday, there are 4 sets left if anybody wants any more.
 

rapidboy

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We are waiting on the adaptor plate sample to arrive to try the new motor but tonight we knocked up a wee extension to try running longer belts.
My radiusmaster runs 1220mm (48") belts as will the new machine I'm building so it would be nice to keep them standard.

[video=youtube;Q_y2Js66cAA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_y2Js66cAA[/video]

Needs a wee tweak and a lick of paint but it works fine :)
 

wasteoid

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Deep joy. I just mounted my multi tool up on my old aldi grinder, and even on the under powered grinder it is fantastic!!!!!

Thanks rapid for sorting this one out. Let me know if and when a motor comes along I am well interested.

Chris
 

Neumo

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Mine turned up yesterday, as I had the last spare one. I am off to my favorite secondhand tool shop to look for a grinder or motor to run this one. Probably wont buy today as I fancy haveing a decent motor on it & need to research it more, get my mate to do some metal work for me etc..
 

rapidboy

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Keep an eye on the BB thread, we are working on adapting them to run on a motor and hopefully will be organising a group buy for the adaptor kt and motors soon.

There is a motor conversion...in progress. There are a few things require adjustment...the second one is always the better. I have went for a vertical because this is what I am used to.


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Motor has a standard B14 flange and foot mount. 1 hp continious rated. This is a 3 phase and is getting an inverter drive.

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The plate, extra holes were for trial. 6mm steel. So this will work the other way too, turned down 90 degrees.

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Mounted with countersink cap heads. M6 x 12mm
It requires drilling four 6mm holes into the Bluepoint attachment.

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Simple modification to the table. Plastic shim washers because the angle iron is less than 6mm.

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Angle adjustment arrangement.

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Shaft is 19mm, a bit of sorting still required at this end.

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So David got everything together today, we gave it a wee test run tonight and it all works as it should.
As mentioned previously this is the all singing all dancing version with an inverter for speed control, we wanted to start with this one so we could see what speed would be best for the single speed version.
Only a quick and rough video to show it working, hopefully we will get a better look at it tomorrow night and a video of it in use.

[video=youtube;gFrQe6dLy6Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFrQe6dLy6Q[/video]
 

rapidboy

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350W benchgrinder V's 1HP motor :)
[video=youtube;B_WAsDVo1Ec]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_WAsDVo1Ec&feature=channel_video_title[/video]

Running at approx 2800rpm, then turned down to approx 1400rpm and then approx 300rpm.
[video=youtube;G2oJlvkGh-Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2oJlvkGh-Y&feature=channel_video_title[/video]

A big advantage over the bench grinder is the motor is rated for continuous use.
 
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Hugo

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That motor is impressive, that attachment is a great tool, pity I missed out on buying one, can't find one in the UK at all.
 

rapidboy

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I have another grinder project part built so i just removed the motor from that to show the differences between B5 and B14 flange.

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rapidboy

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I had ordered a motor and inverter from the supplier just to test him out and they arrived today, very well packed and much quicker than i expected so that's all looking good, just waiting for him to come back to me about single phase motors.

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The inverter is the same as the one David is running for his machine.
Unlike some inverters that have a cooling fan and a LCD screen to access setup menu's (and a big instruction manual to go with it) these wee units have a simple heat sink along with a few DIP switches and pots which keeps everything fairly simple and hopefully reliable.

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rapidboy

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David has the grinder adapter kits ready to go.
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This is what you get
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we spent a couple of hours today documenting what to do with it .....

Start by removing the mounting bracket from the attachment and then remove the centre plate.
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You need the adapter plate, mounting bracket and a couple of clamps
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Align them as shown
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Clamp them together making sure the 3 points indicated are flush
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like this
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now drill through the four holes as indicated
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and you should end up with this
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we now turn our attention to the motor, it has a B14 face
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we are not using the key to drive but to keep the rotor balanced we need to use a half key so start by scribing down each side of the key
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then remove the key and file it down to the line, also give the side a couple of strokes with the file so that it's a loose fit in the shaft
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now we can bolt the adapter plate to the motor using the countersunk M6 machine screws
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it's important the half key is lower than the shaft, this is still too high
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perfect so we can slip the spacer into place
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rapidboy

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at this stage it's handy to clamp the motor to the bench
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the next stage is to mount the mounting bracket to the adapter plate
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but we have left it out here so you can see whats happening

the drive pulley assembly is fitted with a 5/8 plastic bush, we need to remove this
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something like a socket is ideal
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slip the 0.03mm shim into place
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from the other side hold it in position
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carefully slide the drive pulley assembly onto the shaft
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just let it slip on at it's own pace, don't force it
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adding some heat will help
[video=youtube;GTtlU5WDiM4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTtlU5WDiM4[/video]

once in place fasten using the washer and M6 bolt, a drop of loctite here would be good
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next bolt the tensioner into place
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you can see here we need to move the motor feet to move the terminal box out of the way to access the tracking adjustment
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the motor has mountings on each side to allow this
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next we mount the work rest to the adapter plate
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and the angle iron to a suitable plate, in this case we used the mitre table because it was not being used
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put on a belt and turn it over by hand to make sure the tracking is ok and your good to go.
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The adapter kit GB is running now, cost is £40 delivered to uk
 
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rapidboy

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So nobody asked about the little hook on the front or the square lug with the two holes on the back of the adapter plate :rolleyes:
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:lol:
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The little lug on the back was included in the design of the adapter plate so that we could work up an extension plate later - we had a wee play around with that idea tonight.

So changing from 3' belt to the 5' belt that David uses takes a matter of seconds
[video=youtube;g0nUQahImbk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0nUQahImbk&feature=player_profilepage[/video]

and a 4' belt that i use on my radiusmaster
[video=youtube;0OWm-xC8aRY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OWm-xC8aRY&feature=player_profilepage[/video]

It works, we just need to work up the design a bit more.

You won't do this with the attachment mounted to a bench grinder :]
[video=youtube;I_6BKDW7CNM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_6BKDW7CNM&feature=player_profilepage[/video]

I need to get mine wired up and running properly, David is already using his in anger.
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If anybody wants an adapter kit drop me a PM and i will add your name to the list over on BB, the kit is only going to be available once because we have to make a minimum order up for the laser cutting.
 
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rapidboy

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If anybody is looking for a motor for these i have organized a group buy, PM me for details
 

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