How Long to B oil water

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dwardo

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cool stuff thanks for that always rolling boiled for 3 mins so will save me a lot of chopping wood time :)

One thing i have found with boiling water is to BLAST it with flames by which i mean get the flames lapping up the side the billy/tatonka or what ever you use. The reason i say this is many times i have tried to get it going nice and steady and you can be there for ever so get the gas mark upto 6 quicker and your brew will be there a lot quicker also :)
 

Voivode

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Props to that. My wilderness first aid instructor told me that the reason people are told "5 minutes" or whatever is because some people think that when the bubbles form on the bottom, the water has boiled! Gotta inform to the lowest common denominator, I suppose.
 

Snufkin

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Technically you only need to get it to 75 degreesC for 10 seconds. You've then killed all the things that can be killed without resorting to pressure cooking. Some nasties can form spores that only die in excess of 120 degreesC. As most folks don't take a thermometer with them bringing your water to a good rolling boil is a good visual indicator. Boiling for three or four minutes is a waste of fuel and water.
 

spamel

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And as the guy called John states at the bottom of the link, boiling water will only kill germs and bacteria, it will not neutralise chemicals and metals in the water but will in fact concentrate them as water is lost as vapour. Take your water initially from the cleanest source possible, even if it means a two mile walk. You may save yourself a chronic illness.
 

Voivode

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Does anyone know of a chemical indicator test to identify chemical/metals?

Sure, there are lots. That's how us chemistry types figure out what stuff is made of. I did a half semester of labs doing just that.

Problem is, there aren't really any field expedient tests that cover the gamut of metals and toxins. There are just far too many of them.
 

shep

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IMHO your only guide to chemical content is your location, upstream intensive farming or industry etc. Barring serious pollution, provided you're not drinking from the same slightly tainted source on a regular basis you'll be ok. It's the build up of these sorts of toxins in you system over time that can be the problem. Someone correct me if they know better, I'm no expert.
 

RobertRogers

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The thing is you never know about chemical pollution. Maybe someone with a 4WD changed their oil just upstream a few years ago - just one example of many possiblities.
 

pothunter

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Might be way off track here but if clean water has an electrical resistance of ? would chemically polluted water have an increased resistance and heavy metals have a reduced resistance.

Is it possible to have a test on this basis with an acceptable margin either side of the clean base line reading? It would not be definitive but possibly a useful indicator.
 

RobertRogers

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Maybe Poth Unter - but I know there can be a wide array of bad chemicals in water, some metallic and some not.
 

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