Favourite Vegan and Vegetarian dish

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Janne

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I just joked.
But no bees are harmed? Is it that they live in a manmade hive and not in a natural tree trunk that is the problem?

But fruit are growing because of a hard working bee that pollinated the apple flower?
 

Robson Valley

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I am indebted to the wild bees, the bumblebee in particular. They are consummate pollinators of my grapes.
I read now that this is one of their global jobs. I would not dream of robbing them of pollen or honey for any reason.
I usually have one or two bumblebee nests under my garden shed. So be it. Just watch your step going in or out.

Funny = the commercial honey bees are lazy SOB's and won't go near the grape vines.
The bumblebees are absolutely frantic to watch as they spiral around the grape flower clusters.
Even so, there's a tribe of Chickadee birds that work the house vines from south to north every morning for bugs,
they never bother the bees. Then they do the fence rows. Perfect, organic bug killers since 2001.
I like to be in the kitchen to watch my whole back yard working together.

The honey bee of commerce was bred to be robbed of excess production, both honey and wax.
Chickens and pigs, etc., are fed enough to be robbed of excess production of the whole population.

Just watch. No bees? 70% of the worlds crops will fail. Wanna try it? Chateau Cheval Blanc with no bees?
Some wind pollinated cereal crops, the grains, will survive.
 

Janne

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I only buy honey coming from Scandinavia, here or UK, my latest fav is Waitrose Scottish Heather honey.
Lots of US honey is faked ( some say up to 75%!) and I do not trust countries like China with food.

The local honey is tasting like the honey produced in forests ( mixed Boreal) in Germany, Austria and Czech Rep.
Dark, resiney.
the bees are smaller than the ones in UK or Scandinavia.
And the sting hurts like h$ll, much worse than our local scorpions.

A friend gifts me a jar a couple of times a year. He ages them for a couple of years, they get a wonderful, mellow, deep flavor.

They say honey has health benefits. I say - I do not care, as long as it is delicious!
 

santaman2000

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I only buy honey coming from Scandinavia, here or UK, my latest fav is Waitrose Scottish Heather honey.
Lots of US honey is faked ( some say up to 75%!) and I do not trust countries like China with food.......
"Faked" isn't quite accurate, but your concerns (at least with commercial honey) are definitely valid www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/tests-show-most-store-honey-isnt-honey

Personally I only buy locally produced honey no matter where I am. Preferably from family or personal friends.
 
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Janne

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The process costs money. Why not just remove the big bits (wax and remains of bees) and package it?
Some health people say it is the pollen that is beneficial to us.
Watering down too. And I guess heating up? Heating destroys the beneficial enzymes.

I did buy US honey but stopped after I read that info.
God article, btw.

Honey is Vegetarian then?
 
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Toddy

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But it is refreshing mussels, clams and oysters are ok.

Eh? who told you that ?
Vegans don't eat fish, of any variety. They even avoid the foods that are made with their shells and cartilage...like the stuff meant to help heal knackered joints. There's a shellfish free variety available instead of the chondroitin.

Most vegetarians won't eat fish or shellfish either, it's not just vegans.

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Toddy

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The process costs money. Why not just remove the big bits (wax and remains of bees) and package it?
Some health people say it is the pollen that is beneficial to us.
Watering down too. And I guess heating up? Heating destroys the beneficial enzymes.

I did buy US honey but stopped after I read that info.
God article, btw.

Honey is Vegetarian then?

Honey is considered vegetarian by most, but not all.

I eat it, my sons eat it, but we get local heather honey, or from friends who keep bees.

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Janne

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Eh? who told you that ?
Vegans don't eat fish, of any variety. They even avoid the foods that are made with their shells and cartilage...like the stuff meant to help heal knackered joints. There's a shellfish free variety available instead of the chondroitin.

Most vegetarians won't eat fish or shellfish either, it's not just vegans.

M
See smile face in post below. It was a joke, referring to the 'sentient' discussion!
 

Janne

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No, I just did not know what that dish was. Despite living in UK for a decade, some of the Finer British Cuisine escaped my lips......:)

Never had Cocles. The Jewish-British Jellied Eels yes.
Plenty of Fish & Chips.

All sustainably harvested and humanely killed!
 

Janne

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AAAhhh, Jamaican Patties......
Hugely popular here!


Beef or Chicken or Veggie , matters not!
I prefer Veggie, then beef, then chicken.

The veggie ones are more nicely spiced.
When we fly, I always have one Pattie and a Red Stripe ( Jamaican beer) at the airport, after security.
Matters not which time of day it is.
Extra tasty at 7 in the morning!
 
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AAAhhh, Jamaican Patties......
Hugely popular here!


Beef or Chicken or Veggie , matters not!
I prefer Veggie, then beef, then chicken.

The veggie ones are more nicely spiced.
When we fly, I always have one Pattie and a Red Stripe ( Jamaican beer) at the airport, after security.
Matters not which time of day it is.
Extra tasty at 7 in the morning!
I would get mine from a local baker, they were really nicely done, well spiced and best of all fat with filling!
 

Janne

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We have a couple of artisanal small places where they make them, plus we can buy them deep frozen 'Made in Jamaica'. both ready made, just heat in the oven, or ready for a fryer.
I do not own a fryer.
Both good, but the pastry is crunchier on the locally made ones.
Same tasty filling.

Jamaican curry spice mix rocks, nicer than the 'real' Indian made ones. More mellow.

We are very, very European, but have grown a huge taste for Caribbean food.

If the Gods punish me and I have to move back to Europe, I would have a problem with the food and spices.
 
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Riven

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Beans and onions for me. Lightly fry chopped onions then add a tin of baked beans to pan and simmer. Add bread and butter and away you go.
Great meal when camping out too. Caution: may cause wind.
Riven.
 

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