Coat suggestions please?

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Aug 27, 2017
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Hi Guys.

I'm an angler/fisherman, looking for a decent coat. Most of my fishing is moving around lure fishing. I like coats with a long back, so if I do sit my waist does not get wet. I detest wax/ hard shell coats, so something soft that does not soak up water.

I have a Musto coat £350 plus Gortex lining, but when wet it weighs a ton, so ok if it doesn't rain.:banged:

I have a summer coat, so this would be mainly for winter, I normally wear a pair of waterproofs under the coat. Must breath too, and have big hood as I wear a cap.

New to the forum by the way, price will depend on the quality.

Thanks all.

Richard.
 

IC_Rafe

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Wait, so you want a waterproof softshell? Good luck, you'll need it.

I'd just stick with a goretex or similar jacket for downpours, and quickdrying things for normal wear. You requirements just don't make any sense. You wear waterproofs under a coat???
 

MountainGoat

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Hi Guys.

I'm an angler/fisherman, looking for a decent coat. Most of my fishing is moving around lure fishing. I like coats with a long back, so if I do sit my waist does not get wet. I detest wax/ hard shell coats, so something soft that does not soak up water.

I have a Musto coat £350 plus Gortex lining, but when wet it weighs a ton, so ok if it doesn't rain.:banged:

I have a summer coat, so this would be mainly for winter, I normally wear a pair of waterproofs under the coat. Must breath too, and have big hood as I wear a cap.

New to the forum by the way, price will depend on the quality.

Thanks all.

Richard.

Most climbing brands will have coats suiting what you require:

1) Climbing brand waterproofs have a long back so as when someone is stretching with ice axes in hand the jacket doesn't pull out from the back of the harness
2) Climbing brand waterproofs also have oversized hoods to accommodate helmets.


Brands worth checking out are Mammut, Mountain Equipment, Rab etc.

You could also look at Arcteryx, but you'd likely need to sell your house & children to afford one of their jackets.

Best
 

baggins

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Have a look at the Paramo stuff, feels like soft shell but is pretty waterproof by all accounts, if treated properly.
i know they are quite popular in some circles and, while warm in the summer, are perfect for winter stuff.
 

Brynglas

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Definitely have a look at Paramo. Great in the wet, completely waterproof and if it tears you can sew it. Their new ranges are a lighter and a bit more fitted. It's the only waterproif gear I use nowadays.

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mutineer

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I would definitely recommend Paramo too although it's not cheap. I think the Halcon is the classic for bird watchers.
But I would think that for a fisherman, a coat with a durable outer and drop liner is best. Ridge line and Seeland are at the affordable end, Harkila and Swazi are at the 2nd mortgage end.
 

jmagee

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Have a look at their eBay store. Search paramo seconds. Just bought one off there myself. Should arrive Friday

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Countryman

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Twodogs of this forum has started making a ventile smock with a wool lining. I haven't really tested it hard yet as it's been too clement since I bought it but it seems very good. If it's like his wool coats it will become iconic in its usefulness! I've gone with a long back on the coats he has made me and I particularly love that feature.

Ventile and wool are very breathable and ventile is pretty waterproof.

Worth a close look. http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145087&p=1811603#post1811603

Less breathable would be the Ridgeline Monsoon. The early version of this was a plastic bag apparently, the later Elite model is pretty good in my opinion, though really working hard in it has for me only been humping my shooting kit up range. It's not lined but the it covers enough to be pretty cosy.

https://www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk...te-waterproof-smock-jacket---teak-17965-p.asp

Choice is as always waterproof vs breathability.


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C_Claycomb

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I am a long time Paramo user. It is important to note the two quite different cuts that their coats/smocks now have. Some fit me, and some do not, even in the same size. The ones with a single side seam are good, but I cannot get on with those with double side seams. Asked Paramo and was fobbed off with some standard marketing blurb about "athletic cut". Anyway, I have always been very happy with the build, water-proof quality, design details, weight and feel. They are warm, which isn't so good in summer or on the move. They also become less waterproof when dirty, so if you sit on a wet, muddy bank, your butt will soon get wet, and then it will keep getting wet until you clean and re-proof. The answer is to carry something to sit on! Or wear urethane/nylon.

I have a ventile coat and while I like a lot about it, it would not be my choice for long term exposure to wet weather simply because once wet it sucks heat from you and requires more insulation. While it is more thorn resistant than the synthetics, it is not more durable and is more prone to wearing through at folds and around the cuffs.
 
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But I would think that for a fisherman, a coat with a durable outer and drop liner is best. .

Perhaps, if you don't mind camo, the army issue MTP smocks could be an option - the version that has the goretex drop liner, and the siliconised polycotton outer. Usually sold on the likes of ebay such as: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-...hash=item4b17c11baf:m:mg4JbFU9izGUhTHxM338sXA (make sure that you are buying one with the MVP lining, not just a standard unlined smock! It basically a copy of the arktis lined smocks.
 
Aug 27, 2017
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Thats very kind guys, Paramo then. I took a look and the stuff is very nice looking too. As I mentioned I wear waterproof trousers under the coat so sound great. I'm very grateful.

Richard.
 

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