BcUK Photograph of 2013 competition

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brancho

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Most photo comps that I've looked at do allow minimmal retouching by photoshop etc and at the end of the day it would be extremely hard to prove that a photograph hasn't been photoshopped.

Because of that I decided not to have any rule regarding manipulation and go on trust that entrants would keep with the spirit that this is a fun competition.

What is the spirit?

I shoot in RAW so all of my shots have been photoshopped (they have been processed in photoshop) in some way but how much is too much?
 

Mesquite

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What is the spirit?

I shoot in RAW so all of my shots have been photoshopped (they have been processed in photoshop) in some way but how much is too much?


That's a hard one to answer as I know a lot of people shoot in RAW and therefore need something like Photoshop to process the picture.

I would have to say pictures where they have been excessively manipulated to the extent they have become composite pictures are not allowed.

Do bear in mind that just because a picture has been photo-shopped will mean it'll win. For example Shewie won last years photo of the year over on SOTP with a totally unedited picture and I'm sure that a lot of the pictures entered would have been photo-shopped in some way or other.

I hope that helps people.
 

dave53

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if i can stick my pennyworth in just my opinion to be honest the photos should just be as shot at the time I'm sure that gives everyone a level playing field just my opinion regards dave
 

Elines

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If you want to know what I think about image manipulation you'll find it on this page of my web site.


Thanks Gary for producing such a detailed history of the picture
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Both the history and the actual (end) picture are amazing - I thought I was doing well by tweaking the contrast a bit!

I think the key part is:

"For me the finished result conveys more of what it felt like to stand at the edge of the sea taking that shot. The conditions were dark and wild so that is how I have portrayed it."

I can only aspire to that. For me the aim is more to produce something that I like, and if other people do too then that is a nice bonus.

In my view - in terms of the discussion on photoshop - I think what you have done is ok. If you had - for example - added rocks from another picture then that is what would be going too far. But it is always going to be difficult to draw the exact line on what is 'acceptable'.

But then again the rules do say:

11. The organiser has the right to add to or refine the competition rules as they see fit
12. The organiser has the final say in any dispute
 

dave53

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to use gary as an example that is what i mean ex/crop and straiten should be enough after all its supposed to be a fun comp just my opinion as an amateur photographer regards dave
 

Mesquite

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if i can stick my pennyworth in just my opinion to be honest the photos should just be as shot at the time I'm sure that gives everyone a level playing field just my opinion regards dave

If you can show me a easy way that definitely proves the exact date that a picture was taken then I would have put a rule in stating that the picture has to be taken in the month.

There are ways to do it but it involves extremely specialist forensic software which most normal people don't have access to and I certainly don't either. I am taking it the entrants word that a picture their picture was taken in 2013 and that's all I can do.

Photoshopping.
With regards to the digital manipulating of a picture again I can't prove a picture has or hasn't been manipulated easily. However as some people seem to want to have something as a guideline with regards this I have added a rule which clearly explains what is or isn't acceptable.

Please note that an additional category has been added. Titled Bushmoot 2013 and the theme is 'In Motion'
 
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dave53

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to reply to waylands
I'm an amateur photographer as well Dave.

{Just because I don't make a living from photography doesn't mean I want to do a half assed job of it}. i want to do pictures like that hats of to you wayland
now i will shut my gob regards dave​
 

brancho

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I'm an amateur photographer as well Dave.

Just because I don't make a living from photography doesn't mean I want to do a half assed job of it.

I feel the same as Wayland on this (I am just jelous of his skills though)

A comparison is if we were using film if we stand in the same spot with the same camera and to roughly the same thing. we can process the photos in different ways

we take the film of the camera and have the film processed at boots. This is like camera processing the RAW file prodcuing the jpeg.

The other aproach is to develop the film at home and produced a the prints yourself in the darkroom to get the results you want adjusting the exposure and colour balance of each print. This is like using the RAw file to create a JPEG on a home computer using for instance photoshop.

Neither aproach is wrong just different.
 

gaz1210

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yawn were are your photos gents???

cowsinwood.jpg
 

Shewie

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Question for you Steve :)

If I happen to get a decent shot before the end of the month, can I edit out my existing entry and replace it? Still keeping to the one entry by the deadline.
 

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Im heading out up to Ribblesdale for a spot of wild camping this weekend, hoping to catch a decent sun rise/set over the fells. Sunshine in the yorkshire dales though... Might try to get a pic of a unicorn while I'm at it :rolleyes:
 

Mesquite

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Question for you Steve :)

If I happen to get a decent shot before the end of the month, can I edit out my existing entry and replace it? Still keeping to the one entry by the deadline.

Fraid not Rich... The rule is only one photograph can be entered per month :deal: :)
 

Harvestman

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Just wanted to say a public :thankyou: and :You_Rock_ to Mesquite for the idea of the photo competition.

It has really got me using my camera and looking at the world around me. I've taken lots of pictures specifically for the competition, many of them pictures I would never have taken otherwise. I've got a huge amount of enjoyment from it already, and am looking forward to each month now.

This is a case where the taking part really is more important and valuable than the winning.

:D
 

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