Define "Aircraft Alloy".
Theres many different aluminium alloys used in aircraft.
Always bugged me that Maglites were advertised as aircraft alloy which is such a broad brush as to be meaningless.
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Define "Aircraft Alloy".
Theres many different aluminium alloys used in aircraft.
Always bugged me that Maglites were advertised as aircraft alloy which is such a broad brush as to be meaningless.
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Was it looking like that?
The Wehrmacht "Göffel" !
(Gabel-Löffel, Fork-Spoon)
https://www.wehrmacht.es/en/personal-items/316-goffel-field-cutlery.html
I don't know the quality of this reproduction (newly Existing in inox too), but the original was very good, of course.
Spoon and fork are very large, connected together with both tools pointing in opposite directions very long, nice for working in a pan over open fire or barbeque.
Folded together, the spoon protects the fork, that it can't destroy something or hurd someone. Very well thought through, far better than that new titanium sporks in one piece.
German engineering off its best!
Light enough for a proper Blitzkrieg off course. Should you plan one, I really can recommend to look for an original in good conditions or to try out the reproduction.
In my opinion the best trekking cutlery set that ever was developed.
Attention:
This product can cause forgetfulness concerning war crimes.
Was it looking like that?
The Wehrmacht "Göffel" !
(Gabel-Löffel, Fork-Spoon)
https://www.wehrmacht.es/en/personal-items/316-goffel-field-cutlery.html
I don't know the quality of this reproduction (newly Existing in inox too), but the original was very good, of course.
Spoon and fork are very large, connected together with both tools pointing in opposite directions very long, nice for working in a pan over open fire or barbeque.
Folded together, the spoon protects the fork, that it can't destroy something or hurd someone. Very well thought through, far better than that new titanium sporks in one piece.
German engineering off its best!
Light enough for a proper Blitzkrieg off course. Should you plan one, I really can recommend to look for an original in good conditions or to try out the reproduction.
In my opinion the best trekking cutlery set that ever was developed.
Attention:
This product can cause forgetfulness concerning war crimes.
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Erbwurst! titanium sporks are awesome! all you could need in one item, and surely anything pointy in a pack is not a problem if you know how to stow things, as for hurding (herding?) people with a spork never tried it but you can herd sheep with one, but using a dog is better
The Spork is quite popular, it is made in many materials, even wood. ( maybe not the most intelligent material for a fork...)
I personally do not have a need for a fork in nature, if I need one I make a simple one, two pointed, from wood.
I find forks are difficult to clean.
I personally do not have a need for a fork in nature, if I need one I make a simple one, two pointed, from wood.
I find forks are difficult to clean.
The "Light my Fire titanium Spork" may be quite popular. But it will be hopefully the next interdicted tool in the ruck sack.
It is dangerous.
I knew a potato, who was killed by a spork!
And when I asked my dry sacks if I should by one, they became loud, as If I would have asked some sheep if I should by a wolf to complete the herd.
(Of course I meant "hurt" in the last comment, and I thought about writing a "t" in the end, was to lazy to look it up and decided, that "hurd" looks better. But OK, with a "t" in the end it looks more serious, more dangerous, off course. "t" is sharper than "d".)
How do you store this dangerous ultra light instrument? Do you produce an extra heavy leather sheath for it?
The folded Wehrmacht Göffel you can simply put in the pocket of your trousers.
But yes:
Currently I only take a titanium spoon with me, no fork.
But should I decide to take spoon and fork, I would take the original folding Göffel, not the reinvented wheel, that wrong constructed spork.
It is dangerous.
I knew a potato, who was killed by a spork!
And when I asked my dry sacks if I should by one, they became loud, as If I would have asked some sheep if I should by a wolf to complete the herd.
(Of course I meant "hurt" in the last comment, and I thought about writing a "t" in the end, was to lazy to look it up and decided, that "hurd" looks better. But OK, with a "t" in the end it looks more serious, more dangerous, off course. "t" is sharper than "d".)
How do you store this dangerous ultra light instrument? Do you produce an extra heavy leather sheath for it?
The folded Wehrmacht Göffel you can simply put in the pocket of your trousers.
But yes:
Currently I only take a titanium spoon with me, no fork.
But should I decide to take spoon and fork, I would take the original folding Göffel, not the reinvented wheel, that wrong constructed spork.
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Here I found the Göffel reproduction from a more trusted brand:
RELAGS
https://www.steinadler.com/de-at/sh...eche-und-essgeschirr/relags-biwak-alu-besteck
(That's an interesting Austrian side, by the way.)
I think it could be possible, that this is no reproduction, but the original. It looks exactly like the Göffel I bought in the early eighties, made in Western Germany.
I don't know it, but it is possible.
RELAGS
https://www.steinadler.com/de-at/sh...eche-und-essgeschirr/relags-biwak-alu-besteck
(That's an interesting Austrian side, by the way.)
I think it could be possible, that this is no reproduction, but the original. It looks exactly like the Göffel I bought in the early eighties, made in Western Germany.
I don't know it, but it is possible.
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Many armies, including the Swedish one, had an even better design.
The spoon has a handle where you slide in first the fork, then the knife. Also, there is a combo of a can and bottle opener on the handle. Could be used to open Soviet tanks too.
Swedish one Made in Sandviken, of course.
I still have mine, but never use it.
The spoon has a handle where you slide in first the fork, then the knife. Also, there is a combo of a can and bottle opener on the handle. Could be used to open Soviet tanks too.
Swedish one Made in Sandviken, of course.
I still have mine, but never use it.
Something like this was Produced by several factories for the Bundeswehr.
https://www.raeer.com/shopexd.asp?id=19153
The best had been made by WMF, but there are a lot of different original brands, and it is still produced.
But this is far heavier, than the Wehrmacht Göffel !!!
The Bundeswehr was created like the Swedish Army to defend the country.
That wasn't the main Idea, when they equipped the Wehrmacht. So the cutlery set was lighter, made for a marching, not a sitting or driving army.
Interesting, that Relags sells the original Bundeswehr besteck too!
Perhaps the first is really the original Wehrmacht Göffel, still made in the same machine in the same factory like in the thirties and forties.
I think a lot of factories produced them. Absolutely possible that one survived.
https://www.raeer.com/shopexd.asp?id=19153
The best had been made by WMF, but there are a lot of different original brands, and it is still produced.
But this is far heavier, than the Wehrmacht Göffel !!!
The Bundeswehr was created like the Swedish Army to defend the country.
That wasn't the main Idea, when they equipped the Wehrmacht. So the cutlery set was lighter, made for a marching, not a sitting or driving army.
Interesting, that Relags sells the original Bundeswehr besteck too!
Perhaps the first is really the original Wehrmacht Göffel, still made in the same machine in the same factory like in the thirties and forties.
I think a lot of factories produced them. Absolutely possible that one survived.
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I knew what you meant Erb's, I just could not help but take fun with your small miss spelling, are mother languages do not always translate one to another well......as for dry sacks mine do not talk, but do become dry due to a very attentive girl friend if you get me!
The spork I just wrap in a plastic bag and as you know is much better than what you offer, why you may think? well because it is spoon, fork and knife where's the knife then Erb's?
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Victorinox Compact or Opinel Carbone No7 even a Brit could have in the pocket, (next to the sweaty sack).
The dry bags who shouted the loudest when I asked them had been the Snugpack Dry Sacks!
Or Dri-sak (s), or what ever!
https://www.snugpak.com/outdoor/dri-sak-1
The dry bags who shouted the loudest when I asked them had been the Snugpack Dry Sacks!
Or Dri-sak (s), or what ever!
https://www.snugpak.com/outdoor/dri-sak-1
You know, a simple supermarket plastic bag might be just as efficient but more environment friendly, depending how many ‘sessions’ you get out of the Snugpack.
The campaigning British Army only ever used solid Silver cutlery of course
Why does one ever need a fork in the wilderness? - just a waste of weight.
Just a thought on the OP's problem: the bi-metallic small electric current produced from damaged plated objects can make them taste a bit 'tinny'.
Why does one ever need a fork in the wilderness? - just a waste of weight.
Just a thought on the OP's problem: the bi-metallic small electric current produced from damaged plated objects can make them taste a bit 'tinny'.
The Snugpack dry bags I bought survive in my bag longer than 1000 days of use and are still fine.
We will see, how long they will live.
My impression is, that the similar Ortlieb bags are made a bit better, but I use my Ortlieb ultra light bags only round about 300 days...
https://www.rosebikes.com/ortlieb-ps10-dry-bag-ultra-lightweight-245075
Both are good and available in different shapes and colours and sizes.
(The others I own do not have the same quality. They aren't really water tight.)
We will see, how long they will live.
My impression is, that the similar Ortlieb bags are made a bit better, but I use my Ortlieb ultra light bags only round about 300 days...
https://www.rosebikes.com/ortlieb-ps10-dry-bag-ultra-lightweight-245075
Both are good and available in different shapes and colours and sizes.
(The others I own do not have the same quality. They aren't really water tight.)
Yeah, several are used but the most common I ever worked with were either 2024 or 6063 series. Usually alclad and never in a temper state that would be suitable for cooking implements.
