Torch suitable for lamping

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Kepis

Bushcrafter through and through
Jul 17, 2005
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Hi Kepis
Tried a gun light not got the distance,thanks.

Bernie

This is surprisingly powerful Bernie, the specs say it illuminates to 70M, but i can easily illuminate the stable at the top of the back field at home and that's over 100 yards away from the house.
 

saddle_tramp

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Jul 13, 2008
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West Cornwall
Aint teaching nobody to suck eggs here, an im sure yous all know what yous doin. But proper make sure you walk any lamping ground in daylight first. cos theres some hideous hazzards lying almost out of site on every farm i ever seen, and in the lamp light, the dog aint got a hope in hell of avoiding them. Seen a dog, after he'd hit a point harrow once, grass all growed up around it, thing was all but invisible, dog got compound fracture in three out of four legs and had to be shot
 
May 12, 2007
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Derby, UK
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Aint teaching nobody to suck eggs here, an im sure yous all know what yous doin. But proper make sure you walk any lamping ground in daylight first. cos theres some hideous hazzards lying almost out of site on every farm i ever seen, and in the lamp light, the dog aint got a hope in hell of avoiding them. Seen a dog, after he'd hit a point harrow once, grass all growed up around it, thing was all but invisible, dog got compound fracture in three out of four legs and had to be shot

Stoney arable fields also are a worry,as your dogs tend to tear there stoppers on the turns,like you say Saddletramp,you should know the land your working like the back of your hand,always walk new permission in the day, a couple or three times,to check for hazards.

Bernie
 

shocks

Forager
Dec 1, 2007
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Devon
Raid fire spear is what you need. £50 + rechargeable batts from yours truly. If you like Ill send it to you If you like it send me the £50 or send it back!
 

Jared

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Sep 8, 2005
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Wales
RaidFire Spear looks nice, made by EdgeTac too, the company behind the NiteCore brand of lights.
 

Joonsy

Native
Jul 24, 2008
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UK
my advice for what it's worth is that a beam of only 100 yards is totally unsuitable for running any dog after live quarry, especially a young inexperienced dog, a rabbit can soon disappear out of this this range leaving your dog very vulnerable if it pursues it out of range in the dark, just wondered what your reason was for limiting yourself and your dog to such a small beam, i've used a cluson/lazerlite lamp for years which is ideal and you can get some very small batteries now for easy carriage, years ago i experimented with a small pencil beam and found it totally unsuitable for lurchers chasing rabbits, you may hear lots of crashes and squeels as your dog runs the rabbit out of the beam, hopefully luck will be on your side for your dog, forget the convenience of sticking something small in your pocket and give your dog a better chance at catching the rabbit and avoiding injury, those small lamps are only suitable for something like airgun shooting.
 
May 12, 2007
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my advice for what it's worth is that a beam of only 100 yards is totally unsuitable for running any dog after live quarry, especially a young inexperienced dog, a rabbit can soon disappear out of this this range leaving your dog very vulnerable if it pursues it out of range in the dark, just wondered what your reason was for limiting yourself and your dog to such a small beam, i've used a cluson/lazerlite lamp for years which is ideal and you can get some very small batteries now for easy carriage, years ago i experimented with a small pencil beam and found it totally unsuitable for lurchers chasing rabbits, you may hear lots of crashes and squeels as your dog runs the rabbit out of the beam, hopefully luck will be on your side for your dog, forget the convenience of sticking something small in your pocket and give your dog a better chance at catching the rabbit and avoiding injury, those small lamps are only suitable for something like airgun shooting.

I've only had running dogs for about 20 years,so not green at the game,all my dogs are trained to the whistle,and return as soon as they here it, regardless of on a run or off,the particular dog i'm running now is exceptional to the whistle,i dont want to have a lamp that lights up three fields away,and scares everything off,the fields i run are no more than a 100 150 max yds to the hedge, so hence the need for what i asked for. if my dogs need more than that to catch a rabbit in small fields its time for a new dog to train,when i get the new torch i'll post some pics to show you how its done.

Bernie
 

Joonsy

Native
Jul 24, 2008
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I understand your reasoning now, the fields here are much bigger than that, have fun with your fine looking dog, not all lurchers are so well trained sadly. Good hunting.
 
May 12, 2007
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I understand your reasoning now, the fields here are much bigger than that, have fun with your fine looking dog, not all lurchers are so well trained sadly. Good hunting.

No probs mate,as with all dogs its patience, some people buy a lurcher and expect it to catch straight away,it don't work like that,all dogs can do it, its in there genes,some quicker than others, its the owners that have to bring it out of them,but sadly some buy one, if its not caught in a week its up for sale again,and the poor dog does the rounds,sadly a lot of people never give a dog a chance to reach its potentional.if mine never makes it he will still be kept as a pet.as he's a good marker when ferreting.and a brill companion and the missus would divorce me if i got rid :D

Bernie
 

Still Waters

Nomad
Dec 20, 2007
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North yorkshire
Maybe you experianced guys could give us a few tips and pointers?

This is my first lurcher so all advice would be greatfully recieved.

What sort of whistle is it you use bernie?

Ive been walking mine (6 months old) in as many different enviroments as possible and ive been getting her to retrieve with a 1lb throw bag but im lost as to what the next step is?

Also i was told that a dog trained on the lamp wont work well with rabbits bolted by a ferret is this true?
 

spamel

Banned
Feb 15, 2005
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I wouldn't mind inviting meself along on one of your trips Bernie! Would you be willing to take a young whippersnapper like me out with you on one of your jaunts? I'd love to see them working.
 
May 12, 2007
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Maybe you experianced guys could give us a few tips and pointers?

This is my first lurcher so all advice would be greatfully recieved.

What sort of whistle is it you use bernie?

Ive been walking mine (6 months old) in as many different enviroments as possible and ive been getting her to retrieve with a 1lb throw bag but im lost as to what the next step is?

Also i was told that a dog trained on the lamp wont work well with rabbits bolted by a ferret is this true?

No probs your best giving me a ring, as it would take forever for me explain how i do it, typing with one finger.its a lost art doing it the old way.

Bernie
 

Still Waters

Nomad
Dec 20, 2007
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North yorkshire
Ok bernie ill give you a bell

Whens a good time to catch you?

Im not very good on the phone so i appologise in advance


Does anyone else think that communication over a fire helps drop edgy feelings?
 

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