The "Red Hunters Axe" by Cegga - first production run

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AndyW

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Butchd said:
Customs duty mainly will mean VAT, which is chargeable upon entry into the UK at the UK rates. Whether customs will bother to stop and check will depend on the package and a certain luck of the draw.

But if Sweden are in the EU then I thought VAT was taken care of. Isn't that part of the idea of the EU and free trade and all that? Or have I missed the whole point and got this all upside round! :confused:

Isn't it like those that go on a booze cruise to France, duty is paid in France at French rates :D

Andy
 

Butchd

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If you are exporting within the EU, you don't charge VAT because it is very hard to reclaim VAT from another EU country - it can take years. If you are VAT registered then you'd account for the VAT using the reverse charging system, but if the goods are going to a consumer then Customs might well charge it. Of course since I doubt if Cegga is VAT registered it shouldn't be charged anyway, but Customs wouldn't know that.... Bit of a lottery all in all... Booze cruisers by definition are buying in the country and therefore pay the going VAT rate. Techinically I suppose you could reclaim the French VAT and then pay customs the UK VAT as you entered the country.
 
Keep up the good work both of you, and if the pressure gets too much, do as Lurch suggests stick them up one at a time on eBay and let the bun fights begin.
I’m sure lots of people would say that is unfair as well as only people with lots of cash will get one, a bit like a Alan made woodlore knife or a RM pencil.

I have a Ray Mears Pencil.
Would anyone like to swap it for a Cegga Axe?
 

Glen

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Butchd said:
If you are exporting within the EU, you don't charge VAT because it is very hard to reclaim VAT from another EU country - it can take years. If you are VAT registered then you'd account for the VAT using the reverse charging system, but if the goods are going to a consumer then Customs might well charge it. Of course since I doubt if Cegga is VAT registered it shouldn't be charged anyway, but Customs wouldn't know that....

Unless the VAT rules have change in the last decade or so, which is when I last looked at them, you dont have to be VAT registered unlesess your turnover is over a certin ammount ( was around £30,000 per year ) A small operation like Cegga's is unlikely to come anyhere near that so there should be no VAT charged to the end user in this case.

Some of the other members, involved in the retail side of things, might be able to give the latest figures.
 

Butchd

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The key words being 'should be' <grins> I only work on corporate imports, so I guess there is some sort of customs declaration to state that you aren't covered by the VAT net. I guess it'll be something to look into if anyone gets caught by it.
 

Butchd

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Axe arrived at work this morning! It's a beautiful piece of work that the photos don't do justice to. Now it's monday morning, which means I won't be able to properly test it out until at least the weekend - now that is just plain cruel! >.< lol
 

British Red

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Glad it arrived safely (and without any "delays at port"). Hopefully the others won't be far behind! I look forward to seeing peoples reviews / comments and would love to see a picture or two of the received items

Regards - Red
 

JonnyP

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yep, mine has come too....Looks superb, work of art. I am very pleased with it, though there is a small dink on the cutting edge, but I will soon sort that out. It comes hair popping sharp out the box. I am not too sure about the mask locking device, looks neat, but will it hold the axe in place, while the axe is being bumped about on a pack...Time will tell....
Thanks for sorting this one Red
Will put some photos up later (if no one else has not already done so)
 

British Red

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Jon,

Sorry to her about a dink in the edge....that shouldn't be there :( . If you want me to exchange it or sort it or refund, just say the word

Red
 

JonnyP

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British Red said:
Jon,

Sorry to her about a dink in the edge....that shouldn't be there :( . If you want me to exchange it or sort it or refund, just say the word

Red
Its no problem, only a small one at the top of the cutting edge, I will soon sort it...
I am well pleased with it Red and can't wait to test it.....
 

spamel

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Jon, first impressions, how does it compare in quality to a Granny or Wetterlings? They look really well made and considering it is a one man effort.....

Can you take any pics at the moment?
 

British Red

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So long as you are happy, I'm happy mate!

I did chat with Cegga about warranties by the way. All his work is guaranteed against manufacturing fault for 20 years - I guess if a fault hasn't appeared in that time...

I also have the steel details, hardness reading and tempering details if anyone wants them?


red
 

JonnyP

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spamel said:
Jon, first impressions, how does it compare in quality to a Granny or Wetterlings? They look really well made and considering it is a one man effort.....

Can you take any pics at the moment?
Sorry mate, will sort out later, really must get back to work..... ;)
 

Joseph

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Mine arrived this morning. Smaller than expected and lighter. Compared to the granfors carpenters axe its not as hair shavingly sharp but the edge is much more convex and looks more resilient which makes sense. Mine was packed unmasked with a protective rubber like layer on which had held up except for the very top but appears undamaged. Not sure about the cordlock on the mask it seems to be very agressive on the leather lace and may damage it so that it would be worn and unsecure more quickly but only time will tell. The mask has a welt in unlike the gransfors which when I recived it had a dink in the edge where it was pressed against a rivet because of this. Overall mask build quality is good but it will need use to see how the wrap around design holds up.

Overall finish is excellent. The edge is polished and the head to a lesser degree but I like that. The bottom of poll is not as polished and has machine marks but I'd said its nitpicking if your marking it down on that. All the standard stuff seems fine on first inspection; centred head, straight grain, etc. The top majority of the edge is off the ground when it and the handle are layed down so will see how this feels. WIll add more when it has been used.

Thanks again to Red for the conception of the design and organising the buy. Beautiful little tool more refined and polished than the granfors, not saying this is better for everything but different and should be good for its intended use and size.
 

Tiley

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Hearing about the safe arrivals of these beautiful looking axes and one or two initial reviews makes me wonder how long it will be before Cegga produces his next batch. My fingers are itching!
 

Butchd

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Well that looks like the first bit of useful feedback. The rubber applied to the blade had split on mine too just at the top, though there is no damage. Perhaps, this allowed the light damage to Jons, since he mentioned it was at the top too?
 

mayfly

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Mine arrived today as well. With apologies for my poor photo technique, here are some pictures. These are taken straight out of the box, no cleaning or anything. Cosmetically, it is fine, good edge, clearly very well made, and a joy to hold. One thing, the handle securing rivet is not centred in the eye, as it is in the picture of Red's at the start of this thread, though that is perhaps a very picky comment. I don't think I can really comment more until I have used it properly alongside a GB SFA. I should add that I am a total novice with a lot of this stuff, so am going on reading and instinct. I have booked myself onto an axe workshop later in the spring and can already feel myself becoming a total 'axe-head' if that is the right term :D

Chris

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