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Discussion in 'Suggestions, bugs and feedback about the site' started by Wayland, Aug 7, 2011.

  1. santaman2000

    santaman2000 M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)

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    I agree that the section showing the thanks takes up space. But the point is....think just how much space would have been taken up if each of those names had been an individual post instead. Even if that post had been nothing more than, "Thank you" or "+1" it would have been an entire 4 or 5 pages of posts instead. Posts that added nothing to the thread.
     
  2. Martyn

    Martyn New Member

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    You are assuming that each of those names would have posted a normal post if not for the thanks button. That's a fallacious assumption. Your argument is based on content being condensed by this hack, when in reality it doesnt do that. I would argue that the threads would contain the same number of posts, saying the same things with or without the thanks button. Which means that the those lists of names are all additional content.
     
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  3. santaman2000

    santaman2000 M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)

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    That's certainly possible. However a more likely scenario is that the number would be somewhere in between. In any case there's no way of actually knowing either way. But as I and others have suggested, a format that didn't actually show up on screen unless called for/clicked on would easily solve the problem.
     
  4. Martyn

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    I agree, both points are based on assumptions to some extent. But there is evidence that the wider community thinks this hack is ultimately detrimental. The hack was originally released for vbulletin 3*** some years ago. When it first came out, I did consider installing it on BB, as on the face of it, it looks like a cool alternative to the rep button. However, some forum owner that were quick to install it, started to report issues of clutter and misuse by cliques and quickly uninstalled the hack. You can see here [thanks hack on vbulletin.org] that the hack has been downloaded 13,000 times, but only 2,500 currently have it installed. That means 11,000 forum owners have tried it and then binned it for whatever reason. Also note, that the hack has not been supported by the developers since Jan 2010. There are lots of reasons why a coder stops developing a hack, but it often happens when the coder stops believing his hack is of real benefit to the software and communities that use it.
     
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    santaman2000 M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)

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    All valid concerns Martyn. I brought this question up in another thread a month or so ago and it's been well discussed in this one (with opinions going both ways) Perhaps the next step should be to put up a poll asking for votes and see what the numbers are (for or against)
     
  6. Martyn

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    Yes, it's actually impossible to predict for sure how it would work one way or the other, but I'm not sure that "we dont know till we try it" is a valid reason for giving it a go. I'm also not sure the process is actually so democratic that it can be decided by a poll. I suspect Tony might want the deciding vote in the matter. I suppose a straw poll wouldn't hurt, I just worry that folks might get dazzled by the glint of a shiny new button before realising that all that glitters isn't gold.
     
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    santaman2000 M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)

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    Of course I agree Tony's vote is the one that counts. Just think the straw poll might give him (and the rest of us) an idea what the membership thinks. Assuming it doesn't come up a dead heat. LOL
     
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    Yeah, I think that would be the right way to approach it ....I'd be sure to include an abstain option too, so Tony can also judge the level of apathy to the proposition. :)
     
  9. santaman2000

    santaman2000 M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)

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    LOL. Now if only someone knew how to set up the thread. Wayland? You started this one.
     
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    How about folks try using the "Rate Thread" button that we already have ?

    I think that if that that were more used then perhaps we might already have some thanks/rep/ system already in place. Could that then perhaps be made a little more visible without adding screeds of names to the thanks ?
    Just a tally number of people who bothered to rate the thread and the star value ?

    Would that suffice ?
    As it is many folks pm quiet thanks anyway.


    cheers,
    Toddy
     
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    santaman2000 M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)

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    Toddy, I don't know to be honest. Obviously the rate button would need to be more visible, yes. I don't even know where to find it.
     
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    Toddy Mod
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    Look at the bar just above your last post.

    It's anything but obvious when reading down a thread, I have to admit.

    The only way I can see the results are if I go into the forum for a particular topic.


    cheers,
    Toddy
     
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    santaman2000 M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)

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    Toddy, the bar above my last post only has the post # on the right and the date/time of post on the left. Nothing more.
     
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    JonathanD Ophiological Genius

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    Above that one. Look higher.
     
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    It's on the bar above the tread and it says "Rate this thread".

    As Mary says it's not exactly obvious.
     
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    santaman2000 M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)

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    Above that one (what looks to be the lower bar of the next post) there is an exclamation point (!) on the far left in a triangle, then on the right there is the "reply" option, next is the "reply with quote" option, and finally there isthe icon for multi quote.

    Wait I do see it but it's only at the very top of the thread, not at each individual post.
     
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    JonathanD Ophiological Genius

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    Your post is actually at the top of the thread for us. You must have a slightly different view. I appears at the top of every page, not individual posts. It would be better if it was in bold or coloured differently to make it stand out.
     
  18. Toddy

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    Yep, that's what we're saying about it not being obvious, or being easily accessible if reading further down the page.

    cheers,
    Toddy
     
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    Retired Member southey M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)

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    tis here, my first unread post appears at the bottom of the page, but its mere milliseconds to scroll up to the rate button,
     

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