thanks elines you have given me some right use full ideas for a gear storage set up and i cant wait for chrimbo and my birthday
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Tarp set ups
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maybe you could elaborate on this? This is a 3 x 3 tarp but you could always attach a porch type bit to the front of it! Its give alot of coverage and it can be raised or lowed..
I use a similar setup to this in exposed areas with high winds, i prefer to lower the peak at the enterance and widen the front out, then the second attachment point back from the peak is raised by tying it to an overhead branch.
This set up as it aerodynamic is great in exposed areas, it's larger enough for two and gear but you can't sit up in it.
Not stupid brain at all. There are occasions when a totally enclosed shelter is desirable and a tent is a valid configuration for a tarp. I use a tent setup quite often and am looking at this just now. Check out the calculator!
Dont know if anyone has seen this before? I stumbled on it ages ago and saved it for future reference.
http://www.equipped.com/tarp-shelters.htm
It may save some people some headaches when it comes to different types of pitches (just keep scrolling past all the questions and answers to see the images)
http://www.equipped.com/tarp-shelters.htm
It may save some people some headaches when it comes to different types of pitches (just keep scrolling past all the questions and answers to see the images)
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That looks nice, but above me.
I've always used a British Army Basha &/ or 58 ptn Poncho, bungee'd from trees or set up with walking poles and pegged down. Anything more complex is too compicated for me, I want to be able to do it while its raining heavily, I'm wet, numb and cant think strait.
I've always used a British Army Basha &/ or 58 ptn Poncho, bungee'd from trees or set up with walking poles and pegged down. Anything more complex is too compicated for me, I want to be able to do it while its raining heavily, I'm wet, numb and cant think strait.
That's ok - I have learned loads off people on this site - and am still learning - but sometimes I am able to pass something and so (I hope) repay in a general way the help I have received
Been experimenting with tarp set up again, although this time it is a combined tarp and tent flysheet set up, using a flysheet from an old tent left behind by the kids when they moved on.
In experimenting I have been trying to find a set up that:
This is what it looks like
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The 'tent' is the flysheet only and purely by chance the door is on the side
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which allows a more convenient orientation, as the door to the flysheet can be under the tarp and at the same time the top of the flyseet can be under it as well. This means that rain should all flow onto the ground outside the tarp footprint.
The flysheet is the right size for my camp bed
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But you can see that the camp bed would not have fitted into the inner tent
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And when lieing on the bed you can have a (weather-protected) view of the outdoors, although the field of view is not as great as it is with a tarp - but still much better than being inside a tent.
The fly sheet can easily be picked up complete and moved to a new location in minutes, with no need for trees.
So ..... looks promising but will tell better when I have tested it/see how it operates in bad weather.
In experimenting I have been trying to find a set up that:
- uses existing stuff I have
- provides the storage space I need for my stuff (and there tends to be a lot)
- gives good protection against winter weather
- is reasonably easy to set up
- retains an open air feel
This is what it looks like
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The 'tent' is the flysheet only and purely by chance the door is on the side
..
..
which allows a more convenient orientation, as the door to the flysheet can be under the tarp and at the same time the top of the flyseet can be under it as well. This means that rain should all flow onto the ground outside the tarp footprint.
The flysheet is the right size for my camp bed
..
..
But you can see that the camp bed would not have fitted into the inner tent
..
And when lieing on the bed you can have a (weather-protected) view of the outdoors, although the field of view is not as great as it is with a tarp - but still much better than being inside a tent.
The fly sheet can easily be picked up complete and moved to a new location in minutes, with no need for trees.
So ..... looks promising but will tell better when I have tested it/see how it operates in bad weather.
I like a tent and tarp setup a lot. The main thing as far as I'm concerned is that there's much better ventilation. With a lot of the new man-made tent fabrics condensation can be an issue, especially to someone like me who tends to sweat more than most. I find a single-skin lightweight tent and a tarp give me pretty much the ideal setup. Good wind protection, plenty of room to move around, cook and store kit, good ventilation (because I leave the tent door flap open) and a good view -- at least in one direction.
Thanks Ged - glad to hear I may be moving in the right direction - and that someone else has aready tried it without major problems
woodspirits
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
PS I have used a tent&tarp combination before, eg
as have other people.
In my case sleeping was usually outside the tent - but not well protected from bad weather. My bad weather equivalent was to sleep in the tent and use the tarp purely for storage - eg on a very windy night at Spitewinter (of hallowed memory).
In both case I used the entire tent ie inner and outer. My current experiment is different in that it uses just the outer.
as have other people.
In my case sleeping was usually outside the tent - but not well protected from bad weather. My bad weather equivalent was to sleep in the tent and use the tarp purely for storage - eg on a very windy night at Spitewinter (of hallowed memory).
In both case I used the entire tent ie inner and outer. My current experiment is different in that it uses just the outer.
I tried the tent flysheet approach last week at Rough Close. It was adequate but main problem was that the headroom in the flysheet was too little. It did provide good privacy though - actually quite helpful as there was a mother and young son nearby so no embarrassing moments when (I was) getting dressed etc.
So I decieded to try again with a different tarp set up.
I intended to use a 4.5x3m tarp coupled witha 3 x 3 m one and for it it to be something like:
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Key thing is that the 4.5x3 tarp is set up with the 3m side on the ground at the back.
The idea was that the 3 x 3 tarp could be used to provide protection to the bed from the weather and close off one end if necessary, and the whole of the front could be lifted up to provide a big canopy.
However I ended up with a possible satisfactory set up using just the big tarp
with the bed at right-angles to the ridge line, instead of being parallel to it (which is what I had been assuming)
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In this set up the bed is well inside, protected from the elements, whilst giving plenty of clearance from the tarp, because of pulling the tarp out using the existing attachment points
I still have the 3 x 3 tarp to play with to give extra protection and privacy
So ...nothing really clever but a new way for me that seems to be getting to something I might use regularly
So I decieded to try again with a different tarp set up.
I intended to use a 4.5x3m tarp coupled witha 3 x 3 m one and for it it to be something like:
.
.
.
Key thing is that the 4.5x3 tarp is set up with the 3m side on the ground at the back.
The idea was that the 3 x 3 tarp could be used to provide protection to the bed from the weather and close off one end if necessary, and the whole of the front could be lifted up to provide a big canopy.
However I ended up with a possible satisfactory set up using just the big tarp
with the bed at right-angles to the ridge line, instead of being parallel to it (which is what I had been assuming)
.
In this set up the bed is well inside, protected from the elements, whilst giving plenty of clearance from the tarp, because of pulling the tarp out using the existing attachment points
I still have the 3 x 3 tarp to play with to give extra protection and privacy
So ...nothing really clever but a new way for me that seems to be getting to something I might use regularly
Like the pics using bikes and the one by the river using the lie of the land to give head room - thanks for posting these
Hehe, this is where I slept the night before last, seventy miles south of Calais. Yes, it was wet and foggy.
I can't believe how much tarp space you use Chris, a 3x3 is enough room for me, all my kit, and an FJR1300.
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I can't believe how much tarp space you use Chris, a 3x3 is enough room for me, all my kit, and an FJR1300.
Well ... first of all I like my comfort so as I am not using a hammock at moment I need space for my camp bed, then I need to be sure my trailer will be dry, plus my rucksack - ie I don't want wind blowing rain/snow in at an an angle and saturating everyting - including the floor.
I have had some further thoughts on further mods/set up but not yet had chance to try them out - will post pics when I do. I kow whbat I am doing is not for everybody but hopefully will help others/spark a train of thought that will help them
Hehe, that's where a bike is such a big advantage over a car. You don't need to worry about everything getting saturated, because it already is.
On that last trip it rained continuously for three days.
It's been thought-provoking Chris, keep it coming.
great thread chris, really enjoying watching you faffing around with tarps, it's nearly as much fun as doing it myself
i've been trying to find photo's of my ridge tent/tarp set-up without success, i'm sure there's pictures on here somewhere but i just can't find the thread. it's pretty similar to your dome tent/tarp set-up but......erm........with a ridge tent. i find flysheet/tarp to be a great set-up, especially if you're in a "fixed" camp for three or four nights or more, in like being able to get back into the tent when the weather's not great, or to be able to get right out in the tarp when it's nice. having lots of undercover storage space is nice too.
cheers
stuart
i've been trying to find photo's of my ridge tent/tarp set-up without success, i'm sure there's pictures on here somewhere but i just can't find the thread. it's pretty similar to your dome tent/tarp set-up but......erm........with a ridge tent. i find flysheet/tarp to be a great set-up, especially if you're in a "fixed" camp for three or four nights or more, in like being able to get back into the tent when the weather's not great, or to be able to get right out in the tarp when it's nice. having lots of undercover storage space is nice too.
cheers
stuart
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