Question

[Gary]

I know the amount of time and effort that has gone into the setting up of this site.

I thank Tony for clarifying certain things which I wasnt aware of in the above post.

Ultimately you have the choice to pay, it isnt compulsory, and while this may not suit all people all the time if the majority are ok with it then that is a happy medium.

Personally, I dont mind paying £5 a year to see all the happy smiling faces on here.

 

[Lurch]

Totally agree with Tony.
It isn't free (by a long way) for Tony to provide this facility.
The fact that you can use most of the facilities gratis doesn't mean that Tony shouldn't offer extra for a small fee.
15 notes is a bargain.

 

[jamesdevine]

There is an outdoor mag here that I regularly buy. It's not expensive but the subscription is about £35 per year. For this I have no say in what is written and no real opportunity to ask question or give answers to share my experiences with the other readers.

For £15 I can do that here with a few extras as a thank you for helping to keep the site running. For nothing I can still contribute. I have been involved with several website in the passed from profit making organization and some non profit organization the cost is the same same for both. The service providers don't discriminate.

I can understand if someone was a little worried about handing over the hard earned (especially a parent) to someone they have not met (I am unlikely to meet any of the members here anytime soon) but I have gotten the benefits from this community for nearly a year now for nothing thanks to few hard working and generous people :You_Rock_ . I personally have no problem giving something back.

My opinion no one elses.

James

 

[Lurch]

To be honest it's not me that doesn't mind too much about giving money to BCUK it's my parents, and because of that I'm just a little bit miffed that I can't get this newsletter thing.

Don't worry about it matey!
People who can pay get extras, if you can't you don't.
It's a free market thing.....

 

[Tony]

To be honest it's not me that doesn't mind too much about giving money to BCUK it's my parents, and because of that I'm just a little bit miffed that I can't get this newsletter thing.

I am working on producing a regular email/newsletter. It has never been intended for contributing members only, it will be for all members. That has always been, and is still my intention. Let no one mislead you into thinking otherwise

 

[ScottC]

I see, that is good news! I saw email/newsletter listed as a benefit for supporting members when i was going through them earlier. Perhaps you should remove it to prevent this confusion in the future?? :?:

Thank you for clearing that up for me
Scott

 

[Hoodoo]

I can't add much to what Martyn and Tony have said. And said so well! :biggthump

I can only add my own annoyance. I get annoyed at people who always want something for nothing and bitch about it when they don't get it.

For those of you who want something for nothing, I suggest you start your own forum and make up your own newsletter and then provide it for free to anyone who floats in off the internet. Good luck and let me know how that works out, eh? :roll:

So...what's the hidden agenda here?

 

[Lurch]

I get annoyed at people who always want something for nothing and bitch about it when they don't get it.

What's worse are those who want something for nothing and bitch about it when they get it!
):

 

[Hoodoo]

:biggthump

 

[RovingArcher]

Frogo smells a bit trollish if ya ask me.

 

[jakunen]

Just want to publically add my support and thanks for Tony and the folks.

Ok, I may have coughed up the 15 quid membership, but even without that, my view would not be any different. This site fills a HUGE void in the UK and probably the rest of the world where, to my knowledge, there has NEVER been a succesful site dedicated to this 'sport'.

And I'm pretty certain there are MANY sites out there that have tiered membership, each level giving different privelages. Just like an associate of an angling club for example might not be able to take a guest fishing, or may have to pay a higher rate to join a lake run by a works angling club.
There is nothing unique about this.

And having been involved in websites, hosting and such, for work over the past six years, I'm surprised that Tony managed to do it free for us for a year without bankrupting himself and having to sell his wife, kids, house, car...

Tony, Adi, Ed, etc.:You_Rock_ :You_Rock_ :You_Rock_ :You_Rock_ :You_Rock_
Keep up the excellent work. You are very much appreciated by a lot of people!

 

[TheViking]

Thanks Adi for the reply,

1. you did not answer the questions I asked?
2. Why do you have a problem with answering what I asked?
3. I did not offer items for sale, items wanted/ items offered.
4. there was no mention of money, you just assumed I was asking for money.

Hi...

I always believe that it's very rare you get closer to your objective by differing from normal, friendly tone! :roll:
It's okay to discuss, but not argue. As Martyn pointed out it's not possible for everybody to be here 24-7, but I'm on here a lot, and therefore you and others can always ask.

Cheers :uu: :uu:

 

[jakunen]

Hi...

I always believe that it's very rare you get closer to your objective by differing from normal, friendly tone! :roll:
It's okay to discuss, but not argue. As Martyn pointed out it's not possible for everybody to be here 24-7, but I'm on here a lot, and therefore you and others can always ask.

Cheers :uu: :uu:

True, I am on here most days as well although only M-F 9-5, but for things like questions about site admin and 'accounts' I think it best to let those fully qualified, i.e. the Mods - Tony, Adi, etc., those that actually know the real facts behind the site as they are actively involved with the day-to-day answer anything to do with costs and 'users rights'.

We can all be spokespersons for the site, but they have the real answers. We can defend them and their work, but THEY have the facts. Let's not get too self important and assume, that even those of us who post regularly, have paid up or anything else, gives us 'weight' to answer such questions.

Sorry if that's a bit heavy but I've seen how good intentions can create bigger issues, and can seriously p*** off the people who actually run things when others try to imply that are an integral part of the working of companies/clubs/forums etc.

 

[Tony]

I think that jakunen's post was a general comment that covered the whole thread. There was no intent to single out anyone with his comments. Let's not be pedantic about things, especially things that have been sorted.

I will look into the wording of the subscriptions, I appreciate it being pointed out to me

:biggthump

You guys (and girls) are all great and I appreciate all the support in all it's forms, :You_Rock_ :biggthump

 

[Hoodoo]

I'm a bit annoyed that because I can't pay because of family issues I won't be able to recieve this.

YB, I think I have just as much right to be a bit annoyed as you, eh? :wave:

 

[TheViking]

Hi...

Right now I don't have the money to pay a full membership or a supporting so it has to wait a little bit. Also has some kit to buy...

 

[Martyn]

To be honest it's not me that doesn't mind too much about giving money to BCUK it's my parents, and because of that I'm just a little bit miffed that I can't get this newsletter thing.

If you want to contribute to the site and are not able to because you dont have a credit card, you could ask Tony if he'd accept a Postal Order. Just a thought.

 

[Frogo]

Do I sense some hostility here? The guy is only asking a question.

As a paying member of a club you, he or I all have the right by law to see how your money is spent. The club treasurer should be able to publish such info at request or it can be presented at a AGM.

Of course as nonmembers or if you simply make a donation you have no say and there for cannot claim.

Thanks Zacary.

It was only a question, not intended on upsetting anyone, well it just goes to show how the mention of money gets everyone on the defensive.

By the way Tony,

Do you take postal orders, as i do not have a credit card.

Thanks

Frogo

 

[Lurch]

The thing is Frogo, if anyone was on the defensive it was because of the offensive manner of the questioning...

 

[Frogo]

The thing is Frogo, if anyone was on the defensive it was because of the offensive manner of the questioning...

Lurch,
A simple question not intended to be offensive, I allways want to know where my money goes, what you are getting.

A painfull question for some.

Frogo